

| Subject: | Re: Oil temp. ? and OP ? |
| From: | Jake de Villiers |
| Date: | Tue, 5 Oct 2010 10:12:37 -0700 |
Relax Dave, you have two D pillars! ;) On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote: > this confuses me. I am considering the same thing, but for my waterboxer > 2.1. What do you mean by, " ... that would fit vertically on to the > D-Pillar hole vacated by the WBX airbox and idle control unit."? I do know > that the tencentlife cooler fits in the D-pillar, but I did not know it was > in a " ...space vacated by the WBX airbox and idle control unit." Of > course, with my waterboxer, those components are essential. DMc > > ---- Jonathan Berg <jonbergga@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > > I'm pondering putting either a slightly (or much) larger water/oil > > heat exchanger from a PD or V6 on my beast to take the edge off my > > temps. > > > > I've found a couple of small, pretty much rectangular oil cooler units > > that would fit vertically on to the D-Pillar hole vacated by the WBX > > airbox and idle control unit. > > > > Tencentlife on The Samba has a kit that stashes a slightly larger unit > > at an angle in the same space. Nicely done set up. > > > > Holler if you want to compare notes. > > > > JB > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Don Hanson <dhanson928@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Great, > > > thank you, everyone. > > > > > > Mine seems to be running a little too hot, compared to these numbers > > > then. Assuming my gauges are correct and located in good places, on a > > > highway drive in 70f temps at 65mph I was seeing 230-245f Oil Temp, > > > stabilized after about 10 miles of coming up to temp. I am running > without > > > the coolant/oil filter heat exchanger connected right now, so I shall > put > > > that into the system to see if that will bring my Oil temp down. If > that > > > doesn't help much, then I'll try a real oil cooler...probably in the > > > driver's side D-pillar (the passenger side has my cool air intake > snorkle) > > > I didn't have any numerical gauges when running the old 1.8 liter set > > > up..just the light and the water temp dash indicator...which, by the > way, > > > reads just below the LED with an 80c thermostat, has done on both motor > > > confifurations. > > > > > > My oil pressure, as indicated by a new VDO sender and instrument, > > > sensing from the front of the head, indicates that my oil is losing > > > significant viscosity at the motor gets hot...I have about 85psi on > start up > > > (15/40 dino oil) but as I reach 230f with the oil temp. the pressure > sinks > > > to about 25 at 2000+ rpms and 10psi at idle..Lower than I like. Not > low > > > enough to activate the OP warning light, but too low for my liking ... > When > > > the Oil temp is indicated around 200, I have 40psi OP.. In town, the > temp > > > comes down to around 210f. I bet when climbing a long mountain > pass..it > > > will probably rise to beyond what is good...that is just a guess... > > > > > > I may also be seeing some thermal issues from my ignition timing being > off > > > a little. I timed this "franken-motor" by ear, and now I am > incrementally > > > working the timing back, little by little (advancing the ignition spark > > > timing) until it begins to show signs of detonation... > > > > > > A few more 'refinements' as I wrap up this little project..swapping > the > > > 1.8 liter block out for the ABA jetta bottom end. > > > > > > Thanks again for the temp and pressure numbers, everyone. > > > > > > Don Hanson > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Jonathan Berg <jonbergga@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > >> 50 degree ABA I4 layout like yours. VDO gauges in the A pillar. MobIl > > >> 1 15W50. Syncro with lots of fiddlly bits. > > >> > > >> Cold start up presides of ~75 psi. > > >> > > >> Warm idle of ~15-20 psi. > > >> > > >> Intown high temps of 220-225F. Haven't seen a pressure lower than 30 > off > > >> idle. > > >> > > >> Sustained highway driving at 75mph I've touched 240F with no drops in > > >> pressure ~65psi. A touch hot me thinks. > > >> > > >> Thinking about a larger oil/waterheat exchanger or a separate D pillar > > >> oil cooler. > > >> > > >> HTH > > >> > > >> JB > > >> > > >> On Tuesday, October 5, 2010, Don Hanson <dhanson928@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > Those of you with Oil Temperature gauges, what kind of operating > temps > > >> do > > >> > you see? And Oil pressure gauges? Readings? > > >> > > > >> > I just installed some into my 'new' inline Jetta powered 84..I > have no > > >> > idea of what the ranges of temp and pressure is deemed acceptable.. > > >> > > > >> > Anybody have actual gauges and want to share? > > >> > > > >> > Don Hanson > > >> > > > >> > > > > > -- > David McNeely > -- Jake 1984 Vanagon GL 1.9 WBX 'The Grey Van' 1986 Westy Weekender/2.5 SOHC Suby 'Dixie' Crescent Beach, BC www.thebassspa.com www.crescentbeachguitar.com http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27
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