In Utah, you can bond for a lost title, but don't know if that will work w/ missing BOS's or in the states mentioned.

YMMV,

Mr. BZ-if the deal is too good to be true, then it usually isn't a deal for you?

On Oct 11, 2010, at 2:28 PM, Dave Mcneely wrote:

> I don't of course know how much money was involved.  A significant amount, I suspect.
> 
> You can (1) Call a lawyer, likely not going to help much but will cost money, (2) Call the police in the state where you bought the vehicle.  Not likely to help, but may put a little pressure on the guy regarding covering his ass better next time he decides to practice fraud, and (3) write it off as a lesson learned.
> 
> DMc
> 
> ---- "Jack R." <jack007@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
>> A lot of great suggestions were made here.
>> 
>> So sorry to hear you are having problems with your purchase!
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
>> craig cowan
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 8:25 PM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Re: Buying advice
>> 
>> I appreciate all the advice, particularly the first half of the advice I
>> recieved before buying it at noon....
>> : )
>> 
>> To be fair, his "bad reviews" were from 2 people, they were frequent, and
>> they were resolved. They were resolved in a satisfactory way that Everett
>> let him back on thesamba and even wrote a little thing acknowledging that
>> this bad review was not very valid. The reviews in question were in regards
>> to a guy that bought a split window bus PROJECT from him, only to find it
>> had rust. Seriously? That's expected I thought.
>> And the other review was in regards to shipping a large item (I think it was
>> a middle seat) to Tailand, and it took SURPRISE.... more than 2 weeks.
>> So to give the man some credit, his slate may as well be clean. This stuff
>> happens, particularly if you sell alot of stuff.
>> 
>> Anyway, for the last week i've been talking to the guy and getting really
>> good vibes about him. He's been very helpful and I sincerely think I am
>> getting a wonderful deal. The sad part of this situation is that I had a
>> deadline with which to pay him the money which was today, as he's closing a
>> house (he's been upfront about that since day 1). The reason being, my price
>> was 1/3 the cost of what he had another buyer lined up to pay, cash ready,
>> that could make the deadline. He was going out of his way to be nice to me,
>> since we agreed upon a price first.
>> 
>> He now has my money, and I have an email correspondence with him listing his
>> personal information, contact information, and a stated (though still
>> unofficial) bill of sale which includes the VIN number, pictures, and a
>> description of the conditions.
>> 
>> The vehicle is in Portland Oregon.
>> I am "planning" to have it shipped. I would however LOVE to drive it home.
>> Any volunteers to do some work on it for me : ) ????
>> I could have it shipped to you.... you could make it work...... I could fly
>> out....we could hang out..... i could have an adventure driving it
>> home...... : )
>> Just throwin it out there.....
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks again guys!
>> 
>> -Craig
>> '85GL turned WESTY
>> BOSTIG In the back
>> '87SUNROOF SYNCRO
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <
>> scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Roger,
>>> thanks for mentioning me.
>>> I sure hope it works out for the guy buying the van, whatever happens.
>>> I'm glad he posted.
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> www.turbovans.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Roger Whittaker" <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
>>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 10:35 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Buying advice
>>> 
>>> 
>>> dear far and away
>>>> 
>>>> there are a few choices to make here
>>>> 1. send money ... laugh or cry later
>>>> 2. Go to see the guy and make purchase in person ..
>>>> 3. fly to oregon and if you dont like the van ...go see scott in medford
>>>> and
>>>> buy one of his
>>>> 4. you in PA already .. go see chris and drive away with all his junk ...
>>>> store it and then go get what ever you like from who ever and you already
>>>> have all the parts you need
>>>> 
>>>> 5. send money ... hire other to pick up vehicle ...
>>>> 6 Rebuy already purchased vehicle from the scammers again and again from
>>>> various online ... send money now ... get goods later people ...
>>>> 7. Fly to england and go to the brickyard there to purchase ... send
>> money
>>>> in GBP before you go so you can loose twice as much in exchange rate
>>>> 8. buy a delicia
>>>> 9. buy a toyota
>>>> 10 take a holiday on a cruise ship $$ are the same spent and adventure is
>>>> more controllable as onboard casino is set at 60 % house 40% guest
>>>> 
>>>> yours
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:40 AM, craig cowan <phishman068@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I'm working on closing a deal today on a sunroof syncro that's in Oregon
>>>>> (I
>>>>> am in PA). Anyway....
>>>>> The buyer has asked that I just transfer money via a wire transfer in
>>>>> full
>>>>> to his bank account which i normally wouldn't be overly hesitant about
>>>>> but
>>>>> realize this would not afford me any type of fraud prevention should
>>>>> anything happen. I asked him a few days ago what assurance he can give
>> me
>>>>> that this is going to be a fullproof transaction and his response was
>>>>> that
>>>>> should it go sour for any reason, just bash him on thesamba.com. Since
>>>>> he
>>>>> runs a VW restoration business almost entirely through thesamba, it
>>>>> seemed
>>>>> like a just response. Well..... I went and checked him out on the samba,
>>>>> and
>>>>> he's already been bashed enough. He's been banned close to 10 times
>>>>> (under
>>>>> different names), there are pending fraudulant claims and arguments
>>>>> occuring
>>>>> between he and buyers. Luckily, there are also great reviews of his
>>>>> service
>>>>> being above and beyond the call of duty. So this has me at least
>> slightly
>>>>> concerned, any suggestions?
>>>>> Paypal may be an option, does that award a great deal more security?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Furthermore, I don't recieve a bill of sale via the mail for at least a
>>>>> week
>>>>> after I give the guy all my money..... indicating that I don't actually
>>>>> own
>>>>> the car, but have given aside all my money. I asked that he send me an
>>>>> email
>>>>> with his full name, address, the VIN of the car, and which contains
>>>>> agreement terms....should I need to press charges later. Does this sound
>>>>> like a reasonable thing to want? Am I fair in wanting something like
>> this
>>>>> BEFORE I pay? He seems to indicate (and I can see this point as well)
>>>>> that
>>>>> no actual change of ownership agreements ever occur untill after
>>>>> purchase.
>>>>> Sadly he's been pretty tricky with emails, so I have my concerns (Though
>>>>> he's easiliy reached via the phone and a wonderful person to talk too.
>> He
>>>>> seems to be really interested in helping me out).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>> I'm very excited about this purchase, but very concerned now.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Craig
>>>>> '85GL turned WESTY
>>>>> BOSTIG in the back
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> roger w
>>>> From Proverbs:
>>>> Under three things the earth trembles, under four it cannot bear up: a
>>>> servant who becomes king ...
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