hi Neil,
re
"VW is all OBD1 as far as I can see'..............you mean in that book I
think.

all US model cars 1996 and later are OBD-II., including VW's of course.

your engine and system s is a 93 I think.....so it's OBD1, as it should be.

"Codes ? We don't need no stinking codes Senior ! "

----- Original Message -----
From: "neil n" <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: Haynes Techbook Recommend

> Thanks for clarifying Scott.
>
> I assumed it was the book you wrote of. The 10205 book does get into OBD2
> for some models, but VW is all OBD1 as far as I can see. The book has a
> list
> of Pxxxx OBD2 codes.
>
> I'll check out those other books.
>
> One other I grabbed at the library was a Bosch Automotive Handbook
>
> http://www.autobarn.net/bentley-manual-h005.html
>
> Has lot's of info in it!
>
> Neil.
>
> On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <
> scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
>
>> That's a good book for sure.
>> Looks more OBD-I focused to me.
>>
>> the one I mentioned .....mainly for the 'inside dope' stuff they tell you
>> about OBD-II ...
>> like what the thresholds are to set Pending Codes, hard codes , etc
>> ..what
>> the thresholds to set those are..
>> how if a code appears to the ecu ...but then the out of range reading
>> corrects itself say ...
>> and then the car does 6 more drive cycles without it appearing again ..
>> the ecu will erase that code.   And it appears OBD2 has 5 ot 10 times as
>> many codes as OBD-I does ..they get into really fine nuances in OBD2.
>> Stuff like that.
>> that's Haynes OBD-II book .....10206 ........by number that would be one
>> more after the 10205.
>>
>> I also have a 1986 year Hayens book  'Fuel Injection Manual' .. # 482.
>> covers Bosch, Chrysler, Ford, GM.
>>
>> and as you say ...
>> they all use similar strategies and methods.
>> So once you start understanding one brands EFI ...
>> a similar system from another brand or model car - you find it's very
>> much
>> the some usually.
>>
>> Scott
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "neil n" <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 1:53 PM
>> Subject: Haynes Techbook Recommend
>>
>>
>>
>>  Hi all.
>>>
>>> Scott Daniel Foss made mention of this book just recently. It was buried
>>> in
>>> a thread I started but AFAIK, this is the book he referred to:
>>>
>>> http://www.haynes.com/products/productID/52  Haynes 10205
>>>
>>> From my POV of knowing a little about Motronic 2.9, but really not
>>> nearly
>>> enough, this book provides clearly written "how and why" explanations of
>>> typical engine management systems. Moreover, it covers basic trouble
>>> shooting one should do prior to or in conjunction with trouble shooting
>>> the
>>> engine management components and shows tools used etc. I found it
>>> interesting to see just how similar the various components are
>>> throughout
>>> the different vehicle manufacturers shown. It also gives good tips. Like
>>> keeping spark plug wires at least 1" away from sensors or sensor circuit
>>> wires.
>>>
>>> IMO, a great book for someone interested in finding out more about an
>>> EFI
>>> engine. The examples seem to circle around North American made cars, but
>>> do
>>> include VW, Volvo, BMW's use of various Bosch systems.
>>>
>>> Seems like a good meat and potatoes book.
>>>
>>> Neil.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Neil Nicholson '81 VanaJetta 2.0 "Jaco"
>>>
>>> http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/vanagons-with-vw-inline-4-cylinder-gas-engines
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Neil Nicholson '81 VanaJetta 2.0 "Jaco"
>
> http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/vanagons-with-vw-inline-4-cylinder-gas-engines