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Subject:Re: Other groups - a better one? - gasp!
From:Alistair Bell
Date:Tue, 9 Nov 2010 06:56:51 -0800

that's why the vangon wiki was started.

how many have contributed I wonder?

http://www.vanagonwiki.net/wiki/Main_Page

alistair

On 9-Nov-10, at 4:51 AM, Ken Wilford wrote:

Tom I am not sure how long the Alpha group has been around but it
could just be the fact that the Vanagon list is older.  It has been
around since 95 (correct me if I am wrong).  I got on around 97 and
we have discussed every aspect of Vanagon maintenance and ownership
ad nauseum during that time.  Over the years we have seen many
awesome minds and mechanics come and gone (Bob Donalds is one) and
speaking as a long time member, the biggest issue is the feeling of
BTDT.  After you have posted a response to the same issue twenty or
thirty times, you get tired of rehashing something over and over.  I
still do this but I also have spent a lot of time putting common
issues as write ups on my site and I think the Vanagon list should
expand this as well.  If the list did this it might discuss more
interesting topics and thereby get more of a response from the older,
more experienced members, which would be better posts all around.  We
have this vast store of knowledge in our archives, but it is not
organized in any effectual way so when a new person comes on the list
and has a newbie question, he just posts it to the list, instead of
being able to search for his answer in the archives and find an
answer quickly.  I am happy when new people join the list and I want
to help them, but when I am busy and they ask the same question you
just helped another person with the week before, you tend to not
respond.  Not sure if this makes any sense but it is the way I feel.
I don't know how many of us long timers are still here, but I am sure
many of them feel the same way.

Ken Wilford
John 3:16
www.vanagain.com