I take it you missed the tenures of Stan Wilder and Ricardo/Terry Kay!  ;)

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@q.com> wrote:

> I don't think it was one member, but rather the group's attitude that Mark
> was questioning.  I have noticed that the group has changed quite a bit
> from
> the "old days", and I am not nearly as active as I used to be.  Back then,
> there was very little cussing and much more civility/respect, and those
> standards of polite society didn't have to be enforced, they just "were".
>
> I used to compare a typical day on this list as being similar to a big
> family dinner, where conversation flowed back and forth.  For a while we'd
> all be talking about one thing, then break into smaller groups.  All were
> welcome in any conversation, and it was difficult to offend anyone.  That
> has all changed with today's cast of characters; it is more like a street
> brawl, and all having chips on their shoulders, just waiting to rant about
> something.
>
> I don't pretend to know how to return to more "civilized" times, but I sure
> do miss them.  That said, this is still a pretty good group of folks.
>
> Karl Wolz
>
> |-----Original Message-----
> |From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> Of
> |Michael Sullivan
> |Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:01 AM
> |To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> |Subject: Re: The Allegory of the Wave
> |
> |Darn, Mark...someone must have really hurt you for this converasation to
> |continue.  Sorry if that happened, but GET OVER IT.  All this complaining
> |is
> |not helping your case.  Just move on and get past it and later you find
> |that
> |you will end up liking the differences of opinions...maybe even learn a
> |different point of view...or you can can just keep whining about it.
> |I reserve my opinions about most of the listmembers until I actually meet
> a
> |few.  Then I can make a judgement.
> |Take it up with the specific member in pmail and let's just table this
> |issue.
> |Once you put it out there on the InterWeb...you can't take it back.
> |
> |Michael in San Antonio
> |91GL Weekender AT 2.1L 'Gringo'
> |
> |
> |
> |On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Mark L. Hineline <
> |hineline@ocotillofield.net> wrote:
> |
> |> Maybe, like other transporter/Vanagon owners, you wave when you see
> |> another bus or van. You hope they wave back. Some people don't, but a
> |> lot do.
> |>
> |> Now suppose, as a joke, one day someone does the wave and you give
> |> them the finger back. Just for fun. Because they ought to have a thick
> |> skin.
> |>
> |> I hope this never happens to me.
> |>
> |> I think -- and it's just my opinion -- that this list ought to be
> |> about the wave, and never about the finger.
> |>
> |> Your mileage may vary.
> |>
> |>
> |> Mark
> |> '82 Westy
> |>
>

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Jake

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1986 Westy Weekender/2.5 SOHC Suby 'Dixie'

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