A thing to consider, also, about your 'mind-set' for stealth camping.

  It is no 'disgrace', no stigma,  to decide you don't need or want to spend
a bunch of money to park overnight and sleep.  While many humans would think
it normal, in these times, to spend say $100 US dollars for a bed and a
shower, maybe and it doesn't even occur to them that there is another way to
behave while traveling or away from home....there is no law (yet) saying you
must do so.  We, with our Vanagons, we are harming no one by sleeping
aboard, just parked somewhere without paying some fee...(pre-supposing we
are not  leaving any traces of our stay)

  It is not a "right" and if you 'make a statement' of it  (like putting out
your Barbie or setting up lawn chairs), you will likely draw the jealous
attention...or whatever motive it is...of someone who will want to "stop
you" .just because....

 We don't need to think we are 'Dirt-bags' for not paying.  I have done the
"motel" thing, too...and that style traveling sucks, in my opinion.  You
need reservations, you have fees for crappy noisy rooms that you must drag
your gear into for a few hours, etc etc.   RV parks and Government run
campgrounds are ok, if you need all their facilities and want to trade money
for them..  I like having my own little house with me, and I am at ease
being a bit out of the mainstream and not paying for a fancy RV park every
night..

  Don Hanson

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:14 AM, neil n <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@q.com> wrote:
> > Keep in mind, even in a camo colored brown van, to park in such a way
> that
> > your reflectors don't reflect.
> >
> > I usually pull off the road, then pull off the side road, then get behind
> a
> > tree or some such thing.
> >
> > Karl Wolz
> >
>
>
>
> In hindsight, I guess the fact that I painted my bumpers flat black
> when I refurbed them is an advantage in that regard. (they were old
> school rust bent chrome before)
>
> Neil.
>
>
> --
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>
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>