

| Subject: | Re: 87 Cruise Control--followup |
| From: | David Vickery |
| Date: | Tue, 4 Jan 2011 12:30:32 -0800 |
I wanted to send an update on my cruise control problem for the archives. Thanks to the couple people that responded to my post. I mentioned it must be difficult to troubleshoot electrical problems on a list because there are so many mistakes a person can make in the testing itself. In my case, I was using a test light but I also used it as the jumper wire when trying to see if the vacuum motor would run. Apparently you can't do that, why I don't know. The test light would light up but the pump would not run. When I used a jumper wire instead of the light, the motor ran. The real problem turned out to be an intermitent brake cutoff switch. It was passing that tests sometimes and sometimes not. I tested it for continuity and it seemed o.k. so I ignored it. After getting the van back from the shop working, I ran the diagnostics again to see what I was doing wrong. I posted some of what I learned at thesamba which may help the next person. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=317214&highlight= Thanks, Dave in Fort Collins --- On Sat, 12/25/10, David Vickery <david_vickery@yahoo.com> wrote: > Well the pump works fine, so it must > be something else.� I connected the pump to the battery > directly and it runs.� BTW, the other wire is for a > valve; it clicks when you give it power like it is supposed > to.� And the pump runs when you connect brown and green > to battery.� The puzzling thing is that I get 12.x > volts at the plug on the same connectors that I connected > straight to the battery, but at the plug it won't run.� > > -- On Fri, 12/24/10, David Vickery <david_vickery@YAHOO.COM> > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Hoping someone can help with my 1987 stock cruise > control > > problem. > > > > Background:� My cruise was working well now it won't > > come on.� I went through the Bentley troubleshooting > > diagram with a test light and passed the first > several > > checks, including the tests for the clutch and brake > > switches.� Since I passed those tests, obviously the > > fuse is fine and the on/off button works.� When I > got > > to the test for the vacuum pump motor, jumping #4 pin > with > > ground it says I should hear the pump come on.� I > don't > > hear anything.� With the ignition on and the cruise > > control in the on position, the test light lights up > but no > > sounds from the pump in back. > > > > I tried another pump today (used and unknown > condition) and > > I don't hear anything with it either.� So I am > > wondering if it could be a wiring issue or possibly > the 2nd > > pump is bad.� With the #4 jumper in place and a volt > > meter at the pump in back, I read 12 volts at the plug > using > > + to green wire and negative on the brown wire.� I > > don't know what the green and white wire is for but I > don't > > get 12 volts when I try substituting that for the > green wire > > with my voltmeter.� When I had the pumps out, I > tried > > putting 12 volts to them directly and I don't hear > anything, > > but I am not sure if I should be using the green/white > or > > green or both with brown going to negative. > > > > If anyone knows how I can test the pump directly and > what > > it should sound like if it is working, I would be > very > > appreciative. > > > > Thanks, Dave > > > > > >
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