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Subject:Re: Need to finish restoration
From:Scott Daniel - Turbovans
Date:Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:48:13 -0800

hi..
well yes I do do 'personal relatiohship' as my business style.

but ...this was 'some guy' a few weeks ago on a list ..
I just happened to forget it was today for that part for a guy from BC .
I gotta take more gingo biloba.

should I try to be more distant ?
will that help ?
more aloof and less interested in their individual vanagon success ? ?  Will
that help....then they'll know for sure ..I gotta remind this guy who I am.

and I often do deal with many people like  it was 'just yesterday' even
though it's been years.. Need some more interaction first though I think.

yes..must be your supposition ....
I'll work on it !

lol !
Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Hineline" <hineline@ocotillofield.net>
To: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>;
<vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: Need to finish restoration

> It might be the technology. Or ...
>
> You might be so personable in a techy sort of way that people think they
> are the only customers you've ever talked to so of course you would
> remember them
>
> Jim Thompson is like that. When I got FI parts from him a dozen years ago
> it was like I was talking to my new best friend.
>
> It wouldn't surprise me if you are like that, Scott.
>
> Mark
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:         Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
> Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
> Date:         Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:17:52
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
> Subject:      Re: Need to finish restoration
>
> Hi Paul, nice to see your post.
>
> No Kidding ..
> 'if people could just say'...
>
> here's my text from a rant on this subject I just wrote.
> ( and it IS the technology ..it has to be, that is making people less
> thoughtful and helpful of their own situation these days.  This would
> never
> ever happen in the 60's, 70's or 80's ..people had to actually THINK back
> then. )
>
> I'll try to keep it short.
> The request is to 'think proactively' to supply people with necessary
> information to understand what it is they are trying to accomplish.
>
> the classic of course is '...fabulous XYZ Vanagon or vanagon parts for
> sale,
> fantastic deal, great price' ...
> etc. and *they never mention where it is* !
>
> getting to be a joke almost ...so somebody has to say .."ok, that's nice,
> now where the blank blank is it ???"
>
> Or tech questions and never say the engine type or Vanagon  year and type
> etc.  Too common.
>
> similarily ...
> Two really nice guys drive into my shop today ..
> I'm kinda like ..'Hi ...did you just stop by to check out my operation and
> vans?" ...
> I got a kinda of  a 'yes' on that.
>
> I show 'em around ...
> After a while the guy spots the parts I've saved for him ..
> which was the purpose of the visit that he didn't mention driving up  !
> I talk to lots of people all the time about parts and vanagons ....dozens
> of
> conversations all the time..
> why the guy didn't say
> 'Hi, I'm George here to pick up those parts we talked about ' ..
>
> is just beyond me.
> it MUST BE .....the iphones, the GPS etc is making people dumber and
> dumber
> !
>
> so please...try to give the pertinent information to help YOURSELF get
> what
> it is you are after !
> thanks.
> I'm serious ...people are lot dumber and more  thoughtless...there, that's
> a
> good word for it ..'THOUGHTLESS' ...than they ever used to be. ..it's a
> creeping malaise in the culture.
>
> I guess I'll make it standard practice....if they don't offer, I'll have
> to
> say,   'Please state the purpose of your visit.  "
> that really shouldn't be neccessary of course.
> The technology has made people forget the need to identify who they are
> and
> what they are trying to accomplish, apparently, and sadly..        And
> even
> where they are.
>
> Evidently people  assume subconsciously that technology is going to do the
> basic work for them.
> It doesn't.
>
> anyway ..'try' ..ok ?
> thanks.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Guzyk" <paullist08@GUZYK.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 1:53 PM
> Subject: Re: Need to finish restoration
>
>
>> Nowadays phone numbers don't always provide good location info.
>> i.e. my "landline" is a NYC number, my cell is a SF number, yet I'm
>> physically in Boulder, Colorado.   If people could just say where there
>> stuff is for sale (or where they need it) that will help.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Peter T. Owsianowski <
>> pnoceanwesty@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Reverse Look Up though Poynt sez:  Alexandria, VA.
>>>
>>> On 1/31/11, Paul Guzyk <paullist08@guzyk.com> wrote:
>>> > Hey Nik, you may want to let the list know where you are.   Some
>>> > things
>>> like
>>> > sliding door panels are a PITA to ship.
>>> >
>>> > In general, if anyone is selling or posting wanted items, please say
>>> where
>>> > you are.
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Nik Maravich <nikmaravich@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I am restoring my 1987 Vanagon and I am looking for  a gray sliding
>>> >> door
>>> >> panel, with the cloth insert and chrome strip. I also need a pari of
>>> black
>>> >> framed sliding door window.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>  Nik Maravich
>>> >> 571-296-9817
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sent from my mobile device
>>>
>>> Pete
>>> '79 Westy "Aardvark"
>>> '87 Westy "JoesVan"
>>> WWW.Busesbythebeach.com
>>>
>