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Subject:Re: camping amidst bears, safety question
From:Dave Mcneely
Date:Fri, 11 Feb 2011 20:05:15 -0600

Well, that story is rather incomplete, Alistair.  I do believe the broadcast NPR stories I heard provided more information.  However, I believe Loren is expressing his views, and projecting them onto "... most .... "  Having read the AP story, I am convinced that I just remembered incorrectly.

mcneely

---- Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA> wrote: 
> from NPR website, you decide if Loren has it right in his opinion:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/2c9rbps
> 
> 
> >
> July 29, 2010
> 
> by FRANK JAMES
> 
> IAN MCALLISTER/RAINCOAST CONSERVATION SOCIETY
> A female grizzly bear thought to be responsible for horrifying night- 
> time attacks that killed one camper and wounded others as they slept  
> near Yellowstone National Park in Montana was captured, wildlife and  
> law enforcement officials said.
> 
> The bear was caught in a culvert trap (here's an example of one) after  
> it returned to the scene of the attack just as officials had suspected  
> it would. The bear was caught with two of its three cubs. No word in  
> any of the reporting I've seen on the on the whereabouts of the third  
> cub.
> 
> The bear will be killed, if it already hasn't been. There was no  
> indication from authorities on what would happen to the cubs aside  
> from the information that they wouldn't be returned to the wild.
> 
> People knowledgeable about bear behavior say the Tuesday attack on  
> sleeping campers was unusual in that it wasn't a case of a mother bear  
> or sow displaying protective behavior.
> 
> Instead, the bear entered several tents and attacked the campers for  
> no reason readily apparent to humans. The man who was killed was  
> camping alone at a site a quarter mile away from where other campers  
> were attacked.
> 
> The Billings Gazette described what one family experienced as the  
> attacks occurred at their camp site. An excerpt:
> 
> Campers Paige and Don Wilhelm, of Aledo, Texas, were camped in site  
> No. 12 of the 10-acre campground when they heard a scream at about  
> 1:30 a.m. At first, they thought it was just teenagers screwing  
> around. They checked on their two boys, ages 12 and 9, and then tried  
> to go back to sleep.
> 
> Then they heard another scream, this one closer.
> 
> “I heard somebody yell, ‘Stop! No!’ ” said Paige Wilhelm.
> 
> And then they heard the woman yell, “A bear’s attacked me!”
> 
> As they arose to dress, they heard a bear come by their tent, making a  
> “huffing” sound.
> 
> The Missoulian reports that the woman, Canadian Deb Freele of London,  
> Ontario, eventually played dead, which caused the bear to break off  
> the attack.
> 
> While attacks like this are unusual, it did cross my mind that one  
> result of something like this could be that more national park campers  
> decide to protect themselves by packing gunsalong with their sleeping  
> bags. And who could blame them, now that it's legal to do so?
> 
> 
> 
> On 11-Feb-11, at 4:17 PM, Loren Busch wrote:
> 
> > RE:P Bear Attack
> >
> >> This AP story seems to confirm your recollections, not mine.  I  
> >> heard the
> >> reports on two different NPR stations very near to the time the  
> >> incident
> >> happened, actually hearing of the incident one day, and of its  
> >> resolution a
> >> day or so later.  I also seem to recall the fate of the younger bears
> >> incorrectly, as this AP story states that the two young bears were  
> >> sent to a
> >> zoo.
> >> Memory is a funny thing.  Mine seems to be wrong in this case, at  
> >> least
> >> based on this AP report and your recollections.
> >>
> >
> > Your memory may not be the problem, it might be the source.  Most  
> > don't
> > consider NPR much of reliable source for news, known for really  
> > sloppy and
> > biased reporting.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>

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David McNeely