On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:

> Around here, when we have a blizzard, most of the cars one sees off in the
> ditch are 4wd.  It's not that they are worse in the snow than 2wd, they are
> actually better.  But the most important piece of equipment on any vehicle
> is behind the wheel.  mcneely
>

So it's a pebswads thing...(google "pebkac" for the original).

mike

>
> ---- Mark Dearing <VWBrain@AOL.COM> wrote:
> > In a message dated 2/8/2011 3:23:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > mcneely4@COX.NET writes:
> >
> > So far  as 2WD, the physics of the situation is not dependent on how many
> > wheels drive  the vehicle.  It is a matter of surface area vs.
> instability of
> > the  surface.  Increase the surface area, there is more friction surface
> > and  less ability to "dig in."
> >
> >
> > I have done a lot of sand driving on the outter banks of north Carolina
>  ,
> > mostly in old jeeps, some in subies and some in an old 66 VW  westy.  we
> > would lower the tire pressure down to about 12 lbs.with the  2wd  bus I
> would
> > have to stay in the tracks or get on the hard edge of the  ocean.   There
> > were some guys who drove old VW bugs out there,   big old ball tires
> lowered
> > pressure and would stay out of the deep stuff. I  never saw them have a
> > problem.  I have seen others bury the car up to the  axles  LOL. I saw a
> syncro
> > westy vanagon that was out there for a week.  meet the guys in town at
> the
> > store , only reason they came in was they ran out  of beer.  Saw a CJ7
> jeep
> > some fool drove on top of the dredge dune hill and  sink it so far he had
> to
> > step on the back of the seat to get out of it. saw  another get trapped
> on a
> > sandbar with 20 foot deep channel between him and  shore, only had 365
> miles
> > on it. it was fubared    later   mark d
>
> --
> David McNeely
>