

| Subject: | Re: Auxilliary batteries |
| From: | Daryl Christensen |
| Date: | Mon, 14 Mar 2011 19:04:33 -0700 |
OK�My van charges at about 13.6 to 13.8 or9 max. All the spiffy temp/voltage AGM battery chargers I see are 120V AC input.. Is there an onboard �charger widget� for upping the charge voltage to the 14.4 the AGB batts need? I wasn�t aware that a modern alternator could be tweaked for higher output voltages. Mine is a 130 amp Ferd alternator and I have an AGM batt for my refer only. Used to do it on the old mechanical Bug regulators all the time. Battery/electronics master David B ??? any hints. Daryl of AA Transaxle 425-788-4070 "On the cutting edge of Old technology" 86 Syncro Westy w/Turbo Zetec in the trunk From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of David Beierl Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 1:23 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Auxilliary batteries At 05:47 PM 3/13/2011, Gilles H Turmel wrote: Is there a better solution out there? To my understanding the gel type battery will only give me higher life expectancy of the battery with the same autonomy as acid type. Is that a good assumption? From the DEKA sealed-battery FAQ at http://www.dekabatteries.com/assets/base/0139.pdf What are the advantages and disadvantages of the different types of battery designs? Gelled Electrolyte Advantages: � Totally maintenance-free � Air transportable � Spillproof/leakproof � No corrosion � Superior deep cycle life � Installs upright or on side (side installation may lose about 10% capacity) � Very low to no gassing (unless overcharged) � Compatible with sensitive electronic equipment � Superior shelf life � Superior rechargeability (from 0% to 90% in 31 . 2 hours) � No recharge current limitation @ 13.8 volts � Rugged and vibration-resistant � Very safe at sea with no chlorine gas in bilge (due to sulfuric acid and salt water mixing) � Versatile: Starting, Deep Cycle, Stationary � Operates in wet environments�even under 30 feet of water � Will not freeze to �20�F/�30�C (if fully charged) � Lowest cost-per-month (cost � months of life) � Lowest cost-per-cycle (cost � life cycles) Gelled Electrolyte Disadvantages: � Higher initial cost � Heavier weight � Water cannot be replaced if continually overcharged � Automatic temperature-sensing, voltage-regulated chargers must be used � Charge voltage must be limited to extend life (13.8 to 14.1 volts maximum at 68�F) Absorbed Electrolyte Advantages: � Totally maintenance-free � Air transportable � Spillproof/leakproof � No corrosion � Installs upright or on side � Lower cost than gel cell batteries � Compatible with sensitive electronic equipment � Very low to no gassing (unless overcharged) � Excellent for starting and stationary applications � Superior for shorter duration/higher rate discharges � Superior under extreme cold conditions when fully charged � Superior shelf life � Superior rechargeability (from 0% to 90% in 31 . 2 hours) � Rugged and vibration-resistant � Very safe at sea with no chlorine gas in bilge (due to sulfuric acid and salt water mixing) � Operates in wet environments�even under 30 feet of water Absorbed Electrolyte Disadvantages: � Shorter cycle life than gel in very deep cycle applications � Automatic temperature-sensing, voltage-regulated chargers must be used � Water cannot be replaced if continually overcharged � Charge voltage must be limited (14.4 to 14.6 volts maximum at 68�F) Flooded Electrolyte Advantages: � Lowest initial cost � Higher cranking amps � Water can be added (if accessible) � Excellent for starting applications � Tolerant of improper recharge voltage � Certain designs are good for deep cycle applications � Replacements readily available � Good under extreme cold conditions when fully charged Flooded Electrolyte Disadvantages: � Spillable � Operates upright only � Shorter shelf life � Fewer shipping options � Cannot be installed near sensitive electronic equipment � Watering may be required (if accessible)
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