

| Subject: | Re: And now - still trying for NEW TIRES - HAKKA |
| From: | Dennis Haynes |
| Date: | Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:01:20 -0500 |
Why not just get the General Altimax 205/70-14 from Tire Rack or a local dealer? Has the ratings needed and a great price. Really replaces the original fitment and has the M+S rating so it can be legally used in snow conditions. Dennis Sent from my Windows Phone -----Original Message----- From: Mike S Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 8:22 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: And now - still trying for NEW TIRES - HAKKA > At 08:01 PM 3/7/2011, Jim Arnott wrote... > >>Or minimum 99 or minimum 109. You choose. I don't find 93 anywhere. >> >>100 seems like a safe compromise. > > Yawn. > > VW considers the Vanagon a light truck. When they originally spec'd > tires, light truck tires were rated by ply ratings (6PR, 8PR, etc.) > and/or letter load ranges (A, B, C, etc.). The spec'd a 185/14 6PR/load > range C. > > For passenger car tires, they spec'd a reinforced tire. "Reinforced" > (the term "Extra Load" is also used) in this context only means that > the tire is specified to have a significantly greater load handling > capacity than a standard passenger car tire of the same size. > > All of those ratings, PR, letter load range, and "reinforced" (or > "extra load") modify the load rating of _the base tire size_. That is, > a 6PR rated tire of one size might have a different load carrying > ability than a 6PR rated tire of a different size. Those ratings still > appear on modern tires only for backward compatibility with older > specifications. (i.e. for someone looking for a 185R14C 6PR light truck > tire or a 185R14 reinforced passenger car tire) > > The more modern system uses numeric codes to indicate the actual load a > tire can carry, _irregardless of the size_. A 97 (1609 lb) rating can > occur on tires of different sizes. This makes things MUCH simpler, > especially if changing tire sizes. When using this system, the PRx, > reinforced, etc. ratings aren't needed. > > Passenger car tires need to be derated 9% when used for a light truck > application (because light trucks have a higher center of gravity, are > expected to be loaded near capacity more often, etc.). > > Reference: > http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=195 > > For use on a Vanagon, a passenger car tire must be load rated 97 (1609 > lbs). And that is exactly what VW used when they provided passenger car > tires as original equipment on the Vanagon, toward the end of its life. > When derated by 9%, that 1609 lbs becomes 1464 lbs. That is the closest > match to the GAWR-rear (2866 lbs.), without going under. The next step > down, a 96 (1565 lb.) rating, would derate to 1424 lbs., too low for > the Vanagon's actual weight rating. > > If VW were spec'ing tires today, they would say use a light truck tire > of load range 93 (1433 lbs) or greater. That exactly matches the > GAWR-rear (maximum rear axle load) rating of 2866 lbs. Or, use a > passenger car tire of load rating 97 or higher, which when derated > properly, is as close as you can get without going under.
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