Well Dave, there IS a line about profanity in there and seeing as this is
Sunday, the Friday rule must just be a suggestion... even for the
moderators.

What a waste of time. This discussion that is.

Life's too short to discuss elections of rotating moderators and cussing
through acronyms on the list..

What The Fart!

tim in san jose

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:

> Jim, though those seem to be the only published rules, it is clear that the
> moderators mention from time to time other rules/policies, and that most
> adhere to those unpublished dicta.  The two most prominent examples are "no
> cussin'," and "off topic allowed on Fridays."  So, are those rules, or not?
>  I thought they were.
>
> mcneely
>
> ---- Jim Arnott <jr.arnott@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > The following is what EVERYONE received when they joined (except those
> > of us who have been here since lenti, of course.) You'll note that
> > there are no published "rules" but rather a discussion of list
> > etiquette.  That is because we historically have felt that we are
> > civilized adults here. Civilized adults usually don't require "rules"
> > but rather operate according to the mores of the society they're in.
> > This is our attempt to codify those mores for the society known as
> > 'The Vanagon List.'
> >
> > If you all feel that this is insufficient, we will certainly entertain
> > changes.
> >
> > Jim Arnott
> > List Admin
> > vanagon@gerry
> >
> >
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> >
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> > +-------------------+
> > |  List Etiquette  |
> > +-------------------+
> >
> > Due to the volume on the Vanagon list and the multigenerational nature
> > of
> > the discussions, it would  be a great help if you  would make the
> > subject
> > of your message explicit to what model(s)  and year(s) or era of van
> > that
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> >
> >    "Eurovan rear hatch won't latch"   "91 Camper stove problem"
> >    "87 Syncro Clutch Problems"        "83-H20 engine temperature"
> >
> > Often messages refer to trips, tools or other general topics. These
> > types
> > of messages are of course meant for  the whole list and a subject
> > without
> > a particular van type is expected.
> >
> > Fridays are a day when people do fun things on the list. These things
> > may
> > actually  not  be Vanagon  related,  but  we  strongly encourage  it.
> > To
> > indicate that a posting is in fun  and may not be of technical value,
> > you
> > should preface or suffix your subject  with /f [f] or (F). Anyone
> > without
> > a sense of humor should delete these messages without reading them.
> >
> > The vanagon mailing list has been around for a while and its citizens
> > are
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> > the
> > list. In particular, please avoid the following:
> >    o  Messages containing cookie recipes.
> >    o  Craig Shergold or any kid dying of cancer who wants to live
> >       forever in e-mail
> >    o  Forwarded messages with LOTS OF CAPITALS AND EXCLAMATION
> >       POINTS!!!!!
> >    o  Any virus warning which says you can get a virus just by reading
> >       an e-mail message, especially if the virus-carrying message always
> >       has the same subject.
> >    o  Any virus warning already listed as a hoax at any of the following
> >       sites:
> >
> >            http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/hoax.html
> >            http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html
> >            http://www.kumite.com/myths/
> >
> >    o  The Internet AIDS Infection Experiment or any Internet Experiment
> >
> >    o  Why Computers Are Like Men/Women
> >    o  Petitions
> >    o  Good-luck charms
> >    o  Any Chain Letter, especially if it's already listed at:
> >
> >            http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACChainLetters.html
> >
> >    o  Dire warnings or actions alerts like Save Sesame Street!, Kidney
> >       Thieves, Airport laptop thieves, 806 pager scams, FCC Internet
> > Tax,
> >       Lexis-Nexis P-Trax database, rec.music.white-power, etc.
> > Basically,
> >       anything telling the whole world to send e-mail somewhere or take
> >       some action, but doesn't tell you what day (and year) to stop.
> >       Stop forwarding hysteria!
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> >       hundred lines, when all you wanted to do was respond to the last
> >       three
> >
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> > like a
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> > upon
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> >
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> > We
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> > mail
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> > your
> > mailbox directory. With most mail programs you will know immediately
> > that
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> > off
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> > +------------------------------------+
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> > +------------------------------------+
> >
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> > ListServ
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> >
> > Enjoy the list!
> >                                TomC & JimA
> >                           (the Administrators)
>
> --
> David McNeely
>

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