John..The TBD LSD's (Peloquins brand) works in both types..Auto and manual,
but are different units since the trannies are totally different internally.
The term LSD is a generic one for limited slip diff and the TBD is a diff
style (without clutch plates internally).
Hope that makes more sense. And Peloquins is the only manufacturer of them
to fit our vanagons.

Daryl of AA Transaxle
425-788-4070
"On the cutting edge of Old technology"
86 Syncro Westy w/Turbo Zetec in the trunk

-----Original Message-----
From: John Rodgers [mailto:inua@charter.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 5:48 AM
To: Daryl Christensen
Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: 2wd Limited Slip

  So the TBD (Peloquin) is for automatics, and the LSD is for manual
trannies. Do I read that correctly?

What do you use when building up an LSD tranny for someone?

Thanks,

John

> John Rodgers
> Clayartist and Moldmaker
> 88'GL VW Bus Driver
> Chelsea, AL
> Http://www.moldhaus.comAnd to further complicate things...There are
several types of LSD's..
> The original ZF built style with clutch packs internally that always have
> about a 40 or 50% going to each wheel, but do wear out and then...These
are
> generally not available these days.
> Then there are the TBD or torque biasing diff style ( Peloquins built)
that
> have a bunch of little gears inside that mostly try to put power to the
> spinning wheel. They CAN spin a wheel if it gets airborne or loses most
all
> its traction though. They need a bit of traction to both wheels to work
> well. You can get them to slip by standing on the gas, but conversely they
> can get you waaay further up a snowy hill with easy gentle throttle
control.
>
> Daryl of AA Transaxle
> 425-788-4070
> "On the cutting edge of Old technology"
> 86 Syncro Westy w/Turbo Zetec in the trunk
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Zeitgeist
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 10:45 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: 2wd Limited Slip
>
> LSD = Limited Slip Differential
> LLSD = Locking Limited Slip Differential
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:21 PM, John Rodgers<inua@charter.net>  wrote:
>
>>   I understand "locking differential) but I guess I missed something.
>> What does the "S" stand for in the term "LSD" - as related to trannies
>> and not the other stuff.
>>
>> John
>>
>>   John Rodgers
>>> Clayartist and Moldmaker
>>> 88'GL VW Bus Driver
>>> Chelsea, AL
>>> Http://www.moldhaus.comVW classic parts does sell a factory clutch pack
>>> style LSD for about 1500
>>>
>>> euro's...
>>> I have installed well over a hundred of the LSd's front and/or rear.
>>> I have the Peloquins Locking LSD's front and rear in my Syncro. Haven't
>>> had
>>> to lock it up for 2 years and generally can make it up my ski hill or
the
>>> long steep hill to my place in rear wheel drive only. That's gotta say
>>> something about how well they work in snotty slimy NW Cascade concrete
>>> snow.
>>> With the front end coupled in, it goes anywhere I have needed to go.
>>>   I have built a few 2wd lockers thru the years and they work pretty
> slick.
>>> With a locker LSD, they will go just about anywhere a Syncro can go.
>>>
>>> Daryl of AA Transaxle
>>> 425-788-4070
>>> "On the cutting edge of Old technology"
>>> 86 Syncro Westy w/Turbo Zetec in the trunk
>>>
>>>   Check the archives. There's been much discussions here about the
limited
>>> slip offered by Daryl at AATransaxle.com. IIRC, it's the same one the
>>> various listvendors are selling.
>>>
>>> Other discussions here also touched on adding a full locker from a
Syncro
>>> to
>>> a 2wd trans.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> BenT
>>>
>>> sent from my electronic leash
>>>
>>> On Mar 22, 2011, at 11:18 AM, David Vickery<david_vickery@YAHOO.COM>
>>>   wrote:
>>>
>>>   I just started a thread on samba about the limited slip option for a
2wd
>>> van.  I looked and didn't find too much when I was deciding to buy one.
>>>   If
>>> you have one, please post your experiences too.  Thanks Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
> --
> Casey
>
>