Hey Don, its the Vanagon List!   You can run for office on Frydayes
maybe...  ;)

On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Don Hanson <dhanson928@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Ten percent ethanol knocks my mileage down about 15%.  I try to avoid it,
> > following VW recommendations.  I can do that in Oklahoma, but not
> > everywhere.  Now we hear that vendors will be going to 15% ethanol.  What
> > part of burning food for motor fuel is stupid do people not understand?
> >
> > mcneely
> >
> > >
> >
>   Isn't there data showing there are more effective ways to make ethanol?
> Ways that waste less food-producing farm land? The US, we make the stuff
> from corn, right?  And we pay Ag-business a  big fat corn-subsidy, to help
> us "get off oil"?
>  It's my understanding that there are crops other than corn that work
> significantly better, but we don't pay the Ag-business to grow those. We
> lose out.   We get to pay extra, at the pump and at tax time and at the
> grocery store.
>

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Jake

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