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Subject:Re: Advice about power steering problem
From:John Rodgers
Date:Fri, 15 Apr 2011 21:29:11 -0500

Hear is a source.

http://www.busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=251498020

John

John Rodgers
Clayartist and Moldmaker
88'GL VW Bus Driver
Chelsea, AL
Http://www.moldhaus.com

On 4/15/2011 8:17 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
> any PS rack rebuilding kits available anywhere these days ?
> I have,  let's see..
> 6 I think..
> 3 running in vans, and 3 tired ones.
> There's no risk to installing a kit in a rack that is no more than a
> core right now anyway. Well worth taking a chance on a kit.
> anyone know of any kits ?
> Scott
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* John Rodgers <mailto:inua@charter.net>
>     *To:* Scott Daniel - Turbovans <mailto:scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
>     *Cc:* vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>     *Sent:* Friday, April 15, 2011 5:22 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: Advice about power steering problem
>
>     When I bought my '85 GL years ago, the PS rack was dead. Leaking
>     all over. I had a friend who was the chief mechanic and a
>     specialist on VW's at the VW dealership in Anchorage, AK. I bought
>     an official VW  PS seal kit from the parts department  and he
>     installed it at home as a favor and didn't charge me for it.  I
>     drove that repaired PS rack for 100,000 miles and never had a lick
>     of trouble from it. It was still working well when I sold the van.
>
>     Installing a PS seal kit is always a bit iffy. Same with any
>     "repair kit". It may work, it may not. But it might be worth the
>     try. I had three alternators down at the same time. Checked out
>     the replacement and given I needed three the cost was horrendous.
>     So, I opened up the back of the Alternators, checked the inside,
>     lightly sanded the copper inside, installed a new brush kit, and
>     away they all went. No problems. BUT, that might not have worked.
>     The wear may have been out of limits and the repair consequently
>     might not have worked. But you have to try.
>
>     John
>
>     John Rodgers
>     Clayartist and Moldmaker
>     88'GL VW Bus Driver
>     Chelsea, AL
>     Http://www.moldhaus.com
>
>
>     On 4/15/2011 6:31 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
>>     sounds weird all right.
>>     I have a used PS rack that seems just a tad bit bind-ye going
>>     straight.
>>
>>     I was reading in Bentley about that ..
>>     not going to look right now .
>>     but what I remember is they had a few tests ..
>>     fluid pressure from the pump ..
>>     and it wasn't many steps before they got to 'replace rack' ..
>>
>>     oh right ..it was make sure the pressure part and pump were
>>     working..
>>     measure turning effort at steering wheel if I'm remembering right ..
>>     if that was above speck - 'replace rack' .
>>
>>     Like they got to that step pretty quickly ..no adjustments on the
>>     rack or
>>     anything.
>>
>>     I suppose you could crack the 'in' pressure line to the rack , at
>>     the rack,
>>     and fire up the engine ..
>>     make sure fluid comes out of there pretty nicely under pressure (
>>     if you
>>     don't have some sort of pressure gauge ) .
>>      If the pump is pumping well..
>>     and the lines are not blocked..
>>     and the PS give no 'power assist' ....it sure points to the rack
>>     itself , to
>>     me.
>>
>>     how much are those Mavel racks  in dollars ?
>>     one of these days I need to buy a good new rebuilt one.
>>
>>     Used pumps make me nervous ..I had an old used pump blow out a
>>     perfectly
>>     fairly fresh looking and good rebuilt rack about 6 months after I
>>     started
>>     driving it, or sure looks like that's what happened.
>>
>>
>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>     From: "Ken Wilford" <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
>>     To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>     Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 4:08 PM
>>     Subject: Advice about power steering problem
>>
>>
>>>     Dear List,
>>>
>>>     I have been installing power steering racks for a very long time.
>>>     However I have run into a strange problem with one I recently
>>>     installed
>>>     for a customer.
>>>
>>>     Customer had a leaking rack.  I put a new one on.  The fluid in the
>>>     system looked fine and I changed the filter to be sure there
>>>     would be no
>>>     problems.
>>>     Power steering worked great for less than 200 miles.  Then it just
>>>     stopped working.  There is no leak whatsoever.  The customer
>>>     brought it
>>>     back and I tried a new power steering pump thinking that the old
>>>     one had
>>>     just died.  There were fine metal shavings in the fluid this
>>>     time.  The
>>>     new pump did nothing.  So now I am thinking that the rack itself is
>>>     messed up.  However I have never heard of this problem.  I
>>>     checked the
>>>     Bentley and they don't really seem to indicate that a heavy
>>>     steering
>>>     problem was a rack fault.  Has anyone had a similar experience
>>>     in the
>>>     past?  It is a Maval rack and I installed one on my own personal
>>>     van
>>>     about the exact time that I did this for customer.  The one on
>>>     my van is
>>>     working great.  I have sold many of them over the years and they
>>>     are
>>>     good.  If anyone has any experience or advice I would appreciate
>>>     the
>>>     feedback.
>>>
>>>     --
>>>     Thanks,
>>>     Ken Wilford
>>>     John 3:16
>>>     www.vanagain.com
>>>     Phone: 856-327-4936
>>>     Fax: 856-327-2242
>>
>>