

| Subject: | Re: Pesky Vanagon exhaust system..... |
| From: | Scott Daniel - Turbovans |
| Date: | Sun, 24 Apr 2011 10:49:23 -0700 |
Great, I hope that's it. that would be a nice easy fix. and being a nut and bolt connection there, it's easy to remove the bolts, and pry the pipe back a bit with a screwdriver and slip in another gasket. It's fiddly, but doable. another subject.. I always paint all my pipes and mufflers, tailpipes etc. with 'Flame Proof' brand high temp exhaust paint. that paint lasts up to a year .. keeps them from getting rusty looking. A whole lot better, than bare metal, for very little cost investment, to help them last longer . ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Goubeaux" <john@ucsb.edu> To: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> Cc: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 11:07 PM Subject: Re: Pesky Vanagon exhaust system..... > Thanks Scott, > > Yes I like the idea of dbling up the gasket. Obviously I did not get a > good seal there on the cast iron joint. And it's kinda hard to see for > sure if you are getting a good mate with the surfaces, so in some ways > making the adjustment now, eg with the engine in the car, where i can fire > it up and confirm no leak has it's advantages. The leak appears to be the > joint where the forward header connects too. > > -john > > On 4/23/2011 8:06 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote: >> hi, >> no sealant on the exhaust gaskets. >> ( they don't need it, and oxygen sensors can get ruined by some type of >> sealants ) >> >> sometimes, on that cast iron junction piece, it's normal to need double >> gaskets on one of the pipes ..like usually they 'forward cylinders' pipe >> . >> I've seen that a number of times. >> so see if that might make a better meeting of the pipes there with that >> cast iron piece. >> >> nut type doesn't matter too much. >> non-copper ones tend to rust in place after a long time. Copper is a >> better material to use there for sure. >> >> it's normal always to retighten all exhust fasterners after a few >> warm-up-cool-down cycles. >> Just don't break off any studs that screw into the heads or anything .. >> but for the nuts and bolts ....tighten them very firmly by hand. >> >> always use copper anti-seize compound ( or aluminum, but copper is >> better ) on the theads of all fasteners on the exhasut system. >> >> I suspect your aftermarket pipes might not fit that well. >> there is some tendency to 'normalize' after numberous heat cycles...then >> thighten nuts and bolts more. >> >> see if two gaskets on the forward pipe isn't something that would help,. >> at that cast iron piece. >> >> laying on your back under the ( van elevated some ) is a comfortable way >> to work on them. Creeper helps of course . I sure like that better than >> van on a lift where you are working with your hands over your head >> looking up . On a creeper ...things are right in front of you , nice n' >> comfortable. >> Or lay on a large piece of cardboard perhaps. >> >> scott >> www.turbovans.com >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Goubeaux" <john@UCSB.EDU> >> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 7:18 PM >> Subject: Pesky Vanagon exhaust system..... >> >> >>> Any exhaust system experts have any advice to offer? I just installed a >>> new 2.1 engine in a 90 and ( with engine out) bolted on new exhaust >>> header pipes and the heavy elbow flange that joins them together on the >>> LH back corner. It was a bit of a bear to get em all to mate up >>> properly, but with a lot of loosening and tightening and coaxing I >>> thought I got em all snug ( poor fitting aftermarket parts I'm >>> thinking). Well after start up it looks like I have an exhaust leak at >>> one of the connections to the large elbow flange. Damm - I'm thinking >>> these were hard enough to mate with engine out, now I have to do it on >>> my back and looking up ! >>> >>> So are there any tricks here ? Use a gasket sealer along with the >>> regular flange gasket? Are regular nuts better than copper as it might >>> be easier to tighten them down more ? I used copper thinking they were >>> superior. Maybe I just need to use a bigger ratchet and tighten the crap >>> out of the bolts, at the risk of breaking a bolt though. Maybe it's not >>> uncommon to have to loosen/re-tighten them after a few heat/cool cycles >>> ? >>> >>> Any sympathy and or suggestions appreciated. -john >> >
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