I thought I was through with this.  Lying in wait for someone to break into your van is a bit different from "danger of physical injury is imminent."  Think about it.  Do you actually want to hurt, maim, or kill someone, even a thief or burglar?  There are better ways of dealing with such things.  Good luck, I hope it all works out for the best.  mcneely

---- Michael Sullivan <sandwichhead@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> I was just gonna wing him :-)  BTW-I CAN shoot to kill to protect myself or
> even a neighbor or anyone else (in Texas) if danger of physical injury is
> immenent. I googled it ;-)
> Michael in San Antonio
> 91GL Weekender AT 2.1L 'Gringo'
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Mike <mbucchino@charter.net> wrote:
>
> > Theft is not punishable by death in any US court that I know of.
> > Injuring the thief will make you liable for his injuries and future
> > disabilities.
> > Start a neighborhood watch organization, and the police will gladly assist
> > you and inform of your rights.
> > I used to attend when I was living in the city of Phoenix, and your
> > neighbors are the best insurance against theft and gang crimes.
> > Everyone watching out for everyone else, it's your best defense when police
> > cooperation is part of the solution.
> > Vigilante justice could end you up in jail, and add you and your family to
> > the list for gang relataliation if it was a member.
> >
> > Do the right thing to protect your home, stuff and family.
> >
> > Mike B.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Michael Sullivan
> > Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 1:16 PM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: Today somebody got into my van and rifled through it
> >
> >
> > Dave...I still owe you an apology from the comment I made to you last week.
> > I apologize.
> > Now,  we have alot of breakins in my neighborhood because it is a nice
> > neighborhood.  Mostly lawn companies driving through and stealing stuff.  I
> > am on the neighborhood watch, I mow about 7 old folks yards every week or
> > two and I take care of the subdivision entrance(painting, mowing, trimming
> > trees, etc)  What i will not put up with is someone coming into my place
> > and
> > messing with my stuff.  if you need something, ask me.  You'll most likely
> > get it.  I even give stuff to listmembers for free.
> > There are home invasions in San Antonio almost every day.  I have loaded
> > firearms in EVERY room that i can get to quickly because I am not a sucker
> > and I know how to use them. I will not apologize for potecting my family
> > and
> > what is mine.
> > I do appreciate your comments, though and, again, I apologize for my
> > comment
> > to you last week.  Have a good weekend.
> > BTW-Will get an alarm tomorrow(I want one of those that puts 50K volts in
> > someone who tries to break in, in case anyone knows where I can get one of
> > those.  hehehe
> > Michael in San Antonio
> > 91GL Weekender AT 2.1L 'Gringo'
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 12:06 PM, <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > Michael, you did not find him raping your wife.  I understand your feeling
> >> of violation.  But, you found that your van had been looked through, with
> >> evidently nothing taken, nothing damaged.  Your damage deterrent of
> >> leaving
> >> the doors unlocked to prevent someone breaking the windows to get in
> >> worked.
> >>  Shooting someone is a pretty strong response to a petty crime.  Typically
> >> such crimes are committed by children if in a middle class neighborhood,
> >> or
> >> by homeless folks just hoping to get by in less swanky locations.
> >>
> >> I've had my disagreements with Jake, but I hope your response that your
> >> are
> >> going to sleep in your van with a weapon at ready was a bit of hyperbole
> >> due
> >> to the feeling of invasion of the moment.  I hope that with time, a cooler
> >> emotion might prevail.
> >>
> >> mcneely
> >>
> >> ---- Michael Sullivan <sandwichhead@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >> > Homelss in my driveway????How about if I found him raping my wife?  Tell
> >> you
> >> > what, Jake.....Don't feel you need to reply to any of my posts.  Your
> >> > comments are mostly either complaints re: off topic stuff (because you
> >> feel
> >> > that you should be a list moderator) or just plain snotty.  C ya.
> >> > Michael in San Antonio
> >> > 91GL Weekender AT 2.1L 'Gringo'
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Jake de Villiers <
> >> > crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > So you're going to kill some poor homeless person for checking out > >
> >> your
> >> > > van?   Maybe you should be leaving him a couple of sandwiches
> >> instead...
> >> > >
> >> > > Jake
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Michael Sullivan <
> >> sandwichhead@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Kinda feel violated.  Nothing taken.  Just rifled through in my
> >> driveway
> >> > >> between 9-10:30 am. Just cleaned and vacuumed two days ago, so I know
> >> > >> where
> >> > >> everything was.  Sleeping in the van with the Glock tonight.  Really
> >> p'd
> >> > >> me
> >> > >> off since I don't lock it.  The windows and etc are worth more than
> >> what I
> >> > >> keep in in on a day to day basis so I'd rather they just open the >
> >> >> door
> >> > >> instead of breaking something to get in.  C ya.
> >> > >> Michael in San Antonio
> >> > >> 91GL Weekender AT 2.1L 'Gringo'
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Jake
> >> > >
> >> > > 1984 Vanagon GL 1.9 WBX - 'The Grey Van'
> >> > > 1986 Westy Weekender/2.5 SOHC Subie - 'Dixie'
> >> > >
> >> > > Crescent Beach, BC
> >> > >
> >> > > www.thebassspa.com
> >> > > www.crescentbeachguitar.com
> >> > > http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >>
> >> --
> >> David McNeely
> >>
> >>
> >

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