It's Texas... home of the "he needed killin" defense.  Do you really need a good reason to shoot someone?

Just joking.  Don't get your panties in a bunch (some don't have much of a sense of humor).

Cheers, 

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 12:19 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Today somebody got into my van and rifled through it

Sure, but you need to prove it all to a judge and jury, because you will be prosecuted in a court of law.
Don�t just go on a googled statement, speak to the police, ask what your rights are under the local laws.

Mike B.

From: Michael Sullivan 
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 2:38 PM
To: Mike 
Cc: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com 
Subject: Re: Re: Today somebody got into my van and rifled through it

I was just gonna wing him :-)  BTW-I CAN shoot to kill to protect myself or even a neighbor or anyone else (in Texas) if danger of physical injury is immenent. I googled it ;-)
Michael in San Antonio
91GL Weekender AT 2.1L 'Gringo'

On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Mike <mbucchino@charter.net> wrote:

  Theft is not punishable by death in any US court that I know of.
  Injuring the thief will make you liable for his injuries and future disabilities.
  Start a neighborhood watch organization, and the police will gladly assist you and inform of your rights.
  I used to attend when I was living in the city of Phoenix, and your neighbors are the best insurance against theft and gang crimes.
  Everyone watching out for everyone else, it's your best defense when police cooperation is part of the solution.
  Vigilante justice could end you up in jail, and add you and your family to the list for gang relataliation if it was a member.

  Do the right thing to protect your home, stuff and family.

  Mike B.

  -----Original Message----- From: Michael Sullivan
  Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 1:16 PM
  To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
  Subject: Re: Today somebody got into my van and rifled through it 

  Dave...I still owe you an apology from the comment I made to you last week.
  I apologize.
  Now,  we have alot of breakins in my neighborhood because it is a nice
  neighborhood.  Mostly lawn companies driving through and stealing stuff.  I
  am on the neighborhood watch, I mow about 7 old folks yards every week or
  two and I take care of the subdivision entrance(painting, mowing, trimming
  trees, etc)  What i will not put up with is someone coming into my place and
  messing with my stuff.  if you need something, ask me.  You'll most likely
  get it.  I even give stuff to listmembers for free.
  There are home invasions in San Antonio almost every day.  I have loaded
  firearms in EVERY room that i can get to quickly because I am not a sucker
  and I know how to use them. I will not apologize for potecting my family and
  what is mine.
  I do appreciate your comments, though and, again, I apologize for my comment
  to you last week.  Have a good weekend.
  BTW-Will get an alarm tomorrow(I want one of those that puts 50K volts in
  someone who tries to break in, in case anyone knows where I can get one of
  those.  hehehe
  Michael in San Antonio
  91GL Weekender AT 2.1L 'Gringo'

  On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 12:06 PM, <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:

    Michael, you did not find him raping your wife.  I understand your feeling
    of violation.  But, you found that your van had been looked through, with
    evidently nothing taken, nothing damaged.  Your damage deterrent of leaving
    the doors unlocked to prevent someone breaking the windows to get in worked.
    Shooting someone is a pretty strong response to a petty crime.  Typically
    such crimes are committed by children if in a middle class neighborhood, or
    by homeless folks just hoping to get by in less swanky locations.

    I've had my disagreements with Jake, but I hope your response that your are
    going to sleep in your van with a weapon at ready was a bit of hyperbole due
    to the feeling of invasion of the moment.  I hope that with time, a cooler
    emotion might prevail.

    mcneely

    ---- Michael Sullivan <sandwichhead@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
    > Homelss in my driveway????How about if I found him raping my wife?  Tell
    you
    > what, Jake.....Don't feel you need to reply to any of my posts.  Your
    > comments are mostly either complaints re: off topic stuff (because you
    feel
    > that you should be a list moderator) or just plain snotty.  C ya.
    > Michael in San Antonio
    > 91GL Weekender AT 2.1L 'Gringo'
    >
    >
    >
    > On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Jake de Villiers <
    > crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > > So you're going to kill some poor homeless person for checking out > > your
    > > van?   Maybe you should be leaving him a couple of sandwiches
    instead...
    > >
    > > Jake
    > >
    > >
    > > On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Michael Sullivan <
    sandwichhead@gmail.com>wrote:
    > >
    > >> Kinda feel violated.  Nothing taken.  Just rifled through in my
    driveway
    > >> between 9-10:30 am. Just cleaned and vacuumed two days ago, so I know
    > >> where
    > >> everything was.  Sleeping in the van with the Glock tonight.  Really
    p'd
    > >> me
    > >> off since I don't lock it.  The windows and etc are worth more than
    what I
    > >> keep in in on a day to day basis so I'd rather they just open the > >> door
    > >> instead of breaking something to get in.  C ya.
    > >> Michael in San Antonio
    > >> 91GL Weekender AT 2.1L 'Gringo'
    > >>
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > > Jake
    > >
    > > 1984 Vanagon GL 1.9 WBX - 'The Grey Van'
    > > 1986 Westy Weekender/2.5 SOHC Subie - 'Dixie'
    > >
    > > Crescent Beach, BC
    > >
    > > www.thebassspa.com
    > > www.crescentbeachguitar.com
    > > http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27
    > >
    > >

    --
    David McNeely