Jeff, for your information, I drive the Vanagon only for camping.  further, you can take your insults off the list.  I (and others, so I have been told) are sick of them.

---- Jeff Schwaia <vw.doka@gmail.com> wrote:
> Of course you do... that's why you drive a Vanagon.
>
> On the other hand, perhaps you prefer global warming (climate change in PC terms) over a hole in the ozone layer... Name your poison: R134a = greenhouse gas; R12 = CFC.
>
> If you really care about the environment, we'd all appreciate it if you would turn off your computer and save the electricity...
>
> Jeff
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mcneely4@cox.net [mailto:mcneely4@cox.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 6:30 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM; Jeff Schwaia
> Subject: Re: [VANAGON] Vanagon a/c
>
> ---- Jeff Schwaia <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > R134a is a poor replacement for R12.  It's not nearly as efficient and it runs at a much high pressure that the old Vanagon system has problems with.
> >
> > The R12 scare is dead.  It's not hard to find and isn't too expensive.  I get it for about $30 a can as compared to R134a at $15 a can.
> >
> > The Vanagon system was designed for R12 and works very well.  Personally, I would never switch an A/C system designed for R12 to R134a.  What's the point... to save $50 on Freon?
>
> Jeff, some of us care about environmental consequences of our actions.  mcneely
>

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David McNeely