Michael, perhaps you do as much as I and my circle do to avoid waste.  I walk for most of my in town travel, and though the metropolitan area where I live has poor public transportation, I use it when feasible for trips beyond walking distance.  I don't use air conditioning in summer, though I live in Oklahoma.  I insulated my roof to 16 inches, and I keep the house at 65 F in daytime in winter.  I don't drive the vanagon except for camping trips and maintenance.  I drive a Prius for most of my automotive needs.  I avoid altogether many things that most people considered essential to their daily lives, to avoid the energy cost in them.  But thanks for your suggestion of using a bicycle.  And I expect the moderators to be on me for this post.

Sincerely, Dave
---- Michael Rasmussen <michael@JAMHOME.US> wrote:
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 07:12:07PM -0700, Jeff Schwaia wrote:
> > Of course you do... that's why you drive a Vanagon.
> >
> > On the other hand, perhaps you prefer global warming (climate change in PC terms) over a hole in the ozone layer... Name your poison: R134a = greenhouse gas; R12 = CFC.
> >
> > If you really care about the environment, we'd all appreciate it if you would turn off your computer and save the electricity...
>
> If you really care, you'll preserve your vanagon by bicycle commuting.
>
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