Rob, I know denial is a fun game.  Enjoy.  mcneely

---- Rob <becida@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
> This was a good thread up to now, had one of the best ever set of
> directions for getting your AC on the road again.
>
> Now? Oh wow..
> Here is a chart showing the last 10k years of earth temps as taken
> from Greenland ice core readings, not much direct Vanagon stuff there
> but it is interesting to note that it's often been a lot warmer than
> it is now... Not to worry it's usually only 10k years between ice
> ages. Now I know earth cycles don't count for much but if they did
> I'd get that ac system up and running, it might get warmer before the
> winter snows don't melt before the next one arrives and a working AC
> will be of value to you down in central America.
> http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/assets_c/2010/12/easterbrook_fig5.php
>
> I thought R-12 was illegal to make in this country & the rest of the
> west, only China and India were allowed all the R-12 they wanted? Has
> this changed?
>
> FWIW water vapor is a green house gas but it beats me why anyone
> would rather have an ice age than a warmer world, I keep wondering
> what their agenda is.
>
> I have shackles with my tow strap so I can hook it to something, my
> trailer hitch is attached to the loops in back but there is a place I
> can put a shackle on the hitch.
>
> Rob
> becida@comcast.net
>
>
>
>
> At  5/24/2011 07:12 PM, Jeff Schwaia wrote:
> >Of course you do... that's why you drive a Vanagon.
> >
> >On the other hand, perhaps you prefer global warming (climate change
> >in PC terms) over a hole in the ozone layer... Name your poison:
> >R134a = greenhouse gas; R12 = CFC.
> >
> >If you really care about the environment, we'd all appreciate it if
> >you would turn off your computer and save the electricity...
> >
> >Jeff
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: mcneely4@cox.net [mailto:mcneely4@cox.net]
> >Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 6:30 PM
> >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM; Jeff Schwaia
> >Subject: Re: [VANAGON] Vanagon a/c
> >
> >---- Jeff Schwaia <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > > R134a is a poor replacement for R12.  It's not nearly as
> > efficient and it runs at a much high pressure that the old Vanagon
> > system has problems with.
> > >
> > > The R12 scare is dead.  It's not hard to find and isn't too
> > expensive.  I get it for about $30 a can as compared to R134a at $15 a can.
> > >
> > > The Vanagon system was designed for R12 and works very
> > well.  Personally, I would never switch an A/C system designed for
> > R12 to R134a.  What's the point... to save $50 on Freon?
> >
> >Jeff, some of us care about environmental consequences of our
> >actions.  mcneely

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David McNeely