

| Subject: | Navel Jelly (phosphoric acid - organic) vs POR 15 |
| From: | John Rodgers |
| Date: | Tue, 31 May 2011 12:15:23 -0500 |
I have a rust issue to deal with, and just wondering about phosphoric acid vs POR 15. From Wikipedia ( and my college chemistry so long ago) Phosphoric acid (From Wikipedia and my college chemistry so long ago): Phosphoric acid may be used as a "rust converter", by direct application to rusted iron, steel tools, or surfaces. The phosphoric acid converts reddish-brown iron(III) oxide, Fe2O3 (rust) to black ferric phosphate, FePO4. "Rust converter" is sometimes a greenish liquid suitable for dipping (in the same sort of acid bath as is used for pickling metal), but it is more often formulated as a gel, commonly called naval jelly. It is sometimes sold under other names, such as "rust remover" or "rust killer". As a thick gel, it may be applied to sloping, vertical, or even overhead surfaces. After treatment, the black ferric-phosphate coating can be scrubbed off, leaving a fresh metal surface. Multiple applications of phosphoric acid may be required to remove all rust. The black phosphate coating can also be left in place, where it will provide moderate further corrosion resistance (such protection is also provided by the superficially similar Parkerizing and blued electrochemical conversion coating processes). 8 oz bottle cost's $8 bucks. Covers 20 sq. ft. POR-15: converts rust, turning black in the process. Doesn't sound much different than the Phosphoric acid - but at twice the cost. Don't know much more, but that it's popular. Anyone know more about the differences? John -- John Rodgers Clayartist and Moldmaker 88'GL VW Bus Driver Chelsea, AL Http://www.moldhaus.com
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