

| Subject: | Re: Navel Jelly (phosphoric acid - organic) vs POR 15 |
| From: | Dave Mcneely |
| Date: | Tue, 31 May 2011 13:05:06 -0500 |
POR 15 http://www.imperialrestoration.com/product_images/pormsds.pdf Naval Jelly http://www.hardwarestore.com/media/msds/145169.pdf mcneely ---- John Rodgers <inua@CHARTER.NET> wrote: > I have a rust issue to deal with, and just wondering about phosphoric > acid vs POR 15. > > From Wikipedia ( and my college chemistry so long ago) > > Phosphoric acid (From Wikipedia and my college chemistry so long ago): > Phosphoric acid may be used as a "rust converter", by direct application > to rusted iron, steel tools, or surfaces. The phosphoric acid converts > reddish-brown iron(III) oxide, Fe2O3 (rust) to black ferric phosphate, > FePO4. > > "Rust converter" is sometimes a greenish liquid suitable for dipping (in > the same sort of acid bath as is used for pickling metal), but it is > more often formulated as a gel, commonly called naval jelly. It is > sometimes sold under other names, such as "rust remover" or "rust > killer". As a thick gel, it may be applied to sloping, vertical, or even > overhead surfaces. > > After treatment, the black ferric-phosphate coating can be scrubbed off, > leaving a fresh metal surface. Multiple applications of phosphoric acid > may be required to remove all rust. The black phosphate coating can also > be left in place, where it will provide moderate further corrosion > resistance (such protection is also provided by the superficially > similar Parkerizing and blued electrochemical conversion coating > processes). 8 oz bottle cost's $8 bucks. Covers 20 sq. ft. > > POR-15: converts rust, turning black in the process. Doesn't sound much > different than the Phosphoric acid - but at twice the cost. Don't know > much more, but that it's popular. > > Anyone know more about the differences? > > John > > -- > John Rodgers > Clayartist and Moldmaker > 88'GL VW Bus Driver > Chelsea, AL > Http://www.moldhaus.com -- David McNeely
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