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Subject:Re: Follow-up odd noise on new gowesty engine
From:Scott Daniel - Turbovans
Date:Tue, 31 May 2011 18:16:04 -0700

re
this would account for the rear engine mount bar
being closer I think ?  They did look a lot beefier than the old ones
they replaced ?"

I did find this on a waterboxer engine recently.
I was installing a new engine, and only the outer ones looked tired, of the
four rubber rear mounts..
and I was going to just do those ..
but  they stood up noticeably higher than the other two older ones. so I had
to do all four to keep things fitting right and even.  So I could imagine
you are 1/4 inch higher there.

Scott
www.turbovans.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Goubeaux" <john@UCSB.EDU>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: Follow-up odd noise on new gowesty engine

>I too suspected the rear engine mounts, however I replaced them with the
> new engine. I also got an opinion from another mechanic who indicated
> that everything looked like it was in order. Also, because I had another
> bad pipe and and a poorly cast collector knuckle ( all same aftermarket
> brand) I had to return I suspected the pipe bend. Maybe the new engine
> mounts are thicker, this would account for the rear engine mount bar
> being closer I think ?  They did look a lot beefier than the old ones
> they replaced ?
>
> -john
>
> On 5/31/2011 4:52 PM, Jake de Villiers wrote:
>> John, I have had the Danish exhaust pipes on both my 1.9 and 2.1 with
>> no issues at all, so I'd tend to look for worn or broken engine and/or
>> transaxle mounts.
>>
>> Jake
>>
>> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 3:35 PM, John Goubeaux <john@ucsb.edu
>> <mailto:john@ucsb.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>     So , just to follow up on this thread I determined that the "clunk"
>>     noise I ( sometimes) hear when starting or stopping the engine is the
>>     rear exhaust header hitting the rear engine mount bar.  I replaced
>> the
>>     exhaust headers on the new engine (after marker Danish ones) and
>> along
>>     with poor quality issues ( one of them had a cracked weld at the
>>     flange)
>>     it looks like the bend on the rear pipe comes too close to the rear
>>     engine mount allowing it to hit the mount bar. Not sure if I can get
>> a
>>     muffler guy to fix this or not but at least i know what is causing
>> it.
>>
>>     I'm surprised no one else has had this problem as well, as I suspect
>> a
>>     lot of people are using the aftermarket pipes being sold. These were
>>     purchased from Van Cafe.
>>
>>     -john
>>
>>         Guys,
>>
>>         I have roughly 500 + miles on a new GoWesty 2.2 engine that I
>> just
>>         installed and am curious about an odd noise it makes, but only
>>         when it
>>         is warm, eg been brought up to temp. On startup, ie cranking,
>> just
>>         before it starts and when turning of the engine there is a
>>         small clunk
>>         noise. Almost as if before and after  ignition takes place a
>>         compression
>>         sound as the engine comes to a stop. The engine runs fine and
>>         there are
>>         no odd noises while running only at start and stop. I have not
>>         been able
>>         to listen to it back at the engine compartment yet but am
>>         planning to do
>>         so. Nothing is loose that can explain this and maybe it is a
>>         normal
>>         sound and is compression on these engines? Oddly it only
>>         exhibits this
>>         noise when hot though. Could it be a loose head? Sticking valve?
>>
>>         Logically I am being very careful to break it in properly and am
>>         listening and watching its behavior carefully and want to
>>         ensure that
>>         this is not something that is going to end up being an issue
>>         down the
>>         road.
>>
>>         Any ideas ?
>>
>>         -john
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jake
>>
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>>
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