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Subject:Re: Gas Vapors
From:Dennis Haynes
Date:Sun, 29 May 2011 15:18:27 -0400

I would be checking the fuel gauge sender. You can reach over the frame to
check the crossover tube and connection on that side.

Dennis

From: Robert Stewart [mailto:robertmstewart@mac.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 3:08 PM
To: Dennis Haynes
Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Gas Vapors

Dennis,

Since I am seeing the leak on turns on the drivers side what gasket do you
think it might be leaking from?

Once I get the new gasket again, should there be any kind of adhesive added
to keep the rubber in place?

Rob

NY

On May 28, 2011, at 1:43 PM, Dennis Haynes wrote:

With some effort and flashlight you can check for broken tube fittings
without dropping the tank. It is also possible the leak is from the gauge
sender o ring especially on the aftermarket tanks.

Dennis

Sent from my Windows Phone

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Stewart
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 3:33 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Gas Vapors

I noticed today where the fuel smell is coming from. Just under my seat
where the tank under me I saw today a small amount gas that appears to have
leaked out of some hose! I made a really sharp fast turn and I saw a couple
of tiny drips on the ground of the driveway that traced my turning radius.
Sure enough I can see it's dripping from the top of the tank down to the
ground.

Does this mean that either the plastic crossover is cracked or that another
hose is cracked or finally does it mean the cross over tube came out from
the top of the tanks mounts?

Note, I changed this entire tank 4 years ago with a new tank that I covered
with Herculiner to prevent rusting and it looks amazing still.  Plus over a
year ago I installed a new set of fuel lines and a new seal and crossover
kit.

So I am a little surprised.

Robert

NY

On May 25, 2011, at 11:20 PM, Robert Stewart wrote:

Dennis,

I looked tonight at my air filter, there is a line coming from the top of
the round filter that has been capped off. Isn't this suppose to connect to
the charcoal filter? Where is that suppose to go? I assume I should connect
that properly correct? I think a VW mechanic I used in Long Beach NY put a
ball bearing in it and capped it off.

Rob

On May 22, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Dennis Haynes wrote:

From: Robert Stewart [mailto:robertmstewart@mac.com]

Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 7:09 PM

To: Dennis Haynes

Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM

Subject: Re: Gas Vapors

I can't speak as to the Black Silicone looking thing he used on the seals.

But I do believe it said it was ok for gas. Not sure.

Gravity Valves are where?

On top of each tank in the wheel wells.

Vapor Recovery valve is on the left, right front or behind the air filter?

What should I do with it once I locate it?

In front of the air filter on the other side of the firewall. You should be

able to hear it click each time the throttle is opened when the engine is

running.

I never have heard any pressure release sounds coming from the gas tank cap

and this is my second van, so what is missing?

Something is leaking somewhere. Just think later cars will generate a fault

code when the tank can't hold vapor pressure.

Thanks,

Robert

On May 22, 2011, at 6:58 PM, Dennis Haynes wrote:

Silicon and gasoline. What was someone thinking. Most say on the tube not

for use with gasoline or on head gaskets. It could just be a loose hose or

one of the gravity valves on top of the expansion tanks. Also check the

operation of the vapor  recovery valve near the air filter. If all is well

whenever you open the cap for filling you should hear some pressure

escaping. After repairs the tank and vent system can be charged to 2-3 psi

to make sure the vapors are kept in.

Dennis

-----Original Message-----

From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of

Robert Stewart

Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 6:06 PM

To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM

Subject: Gas Vapors

A year ago my mechanic and I removed my new gas tank and installed the

crossover pipe and a seal kit with all the rubber grommets and clamps. He

used some special RTV silicone on all the rubber grommets before installing

it.

Now it's a year later and the smell of gas permeates outside the vehicle

when I fill up. I have no idea what to do.

I am at my wits end at this point.

Either a hose is damaged, or a seal must have blown ( hard to believe with

the new rubber and RTV silicone though).

Does anyone have any advice?

Thanks,

Robert

88 Automatic Wolfsburg

All New Fuel Lines

All New Hoses

Rebuilt Engine