

| Subject: | Re: Pop top issue |
| From: | Rocket J Squirrel |
| Date: | Sat, 4 Jun 2011 08:30:18 -0700 |
Hi Neil, yes each arm has a cable, and they appear unfrayed and wrap tightly around the knee pulley when the top is down. -- -- Rocky J Squirrel (Jack Elliott) On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 18:35 -0700, neil n wrote: > Mr. Rocket. > > > > In your pics, I don't see a cable, but do (I think) see the mark where > it travelled. > > > Is a cable present on each set of arms? When top down, is each under > tension? > > > Neil. > > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Rocket J Squirrel > <camping.elliott@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks Mike S and Neil. I've been gone camping since Monday > morning and just got back. Have some catching up to do. > > David B posted pictures of what a failing poptop hinge (pivot? > pulley?) looks like. The pulley looks to be bulging out of its > housing. > <https://picasaweb.google.com/dbeierl/VanagonPopTopHingeTroubles#> > > I can't tell if mine is undergoing the same failure. The > poptop has gotten harder to move. > > Here are shots of mine: > <https://picasaweb.google.com/j.michael.elliott/PoptopHinges?authkey=Gv1sRgCKXnpcK_gtDDuAE&feat=directlink> > > > -- > Rocky J Squirrel > > > > > > > On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 09:56 -0700, neil n wrote: > > > You will likely see this during your inspection, but have a look at > > the cable where it passes over the upper arm. > > > > https://picasaweb.google.com/musomuso/PopTopStrutCableAndSpringEtc#5509195367211185330 > > > > Top down, or most of the way down, exposes most of the cable. You can > > still see part of cable top up. Check if cables are frayed. > > > > Neil. > > > > On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 6:28 AM, Rocket J Squirrel > > <camping.elliott@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Thanks. I wonder if anyone came up with an "everyman" solution. One not > > > requiring a lathe or Bronze Age metalworking skills. I'll eye the hinges in > > > Mellow Yellow this camping trip and if they look fishy I'll be needing to > > > fix 'em up. I'll raise the issue then. > > > > > > On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 22:02 -0700, neil n wrote: > > > > > > Oh. > > > > > > Maybe use PVC instead of copper? OD of that schedule (thickness) PVC > > > needed to be reduced or hole in arm embiggened much more so than for > > > the copper, but AFAIK, the ID wouldn't need to be altered. Personally > > > i would stick with metal. I just threw it out there. > > > > > > Neil. > > > > > > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Rocket J Squirrel > > > <camping.elliott@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> Outstanding. There's another sentence maybe you could unpack: > > >> > > >> "Of note, a chunk of thicker wall 3/4" PVC found on bench fit bar OD > > >> nicely." > > >> > > >> Nice to hear, but I don't understand what this means. > > >> > > >> Would wearing 19th century deep sea diving equipment help? > > >> > > >> On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 21:48 -0700, neil n wrote: > > >> > > >> For annealing you will need: > > >> > > >> - Flux Capacitor > > >> - Box with window and gloves like Homer J has at work > > >> - 911 on speed dial > > >> - band-aids > > >> > > >> ;) > > >> > > >> I use a propane torch (like you use for plumbing at home) to heat the > > >> metal til it's red-orange in colour. It helps to have lower lighting > > >> to see the colour change though safety first right? > > >> > > >> With copper or brass, you can cool it down with water or air cool. > > >> Seems to make no difference. (other than any possible water spatter) > > >> > > >> Annealing = making metal softer. Working it will harden it. > > >> > > >> I don't recall exactly what I did to expand the piece but I either: > > >> > > >> used a socket on 1/2" extension in vice as mandrel, slipped piece on, > > >> hit it with a hammer making sure the mandrel was "backing it up" at > > >> all times. This spreads the metal. Or..... > > >> > > >> Pounded a suitably sized sockets through the pipe bit thus expanding it. > > >> > > >> Thinking now, maybe this isn't an evermans solution, but, well, there > > >> ya go. I've had some experience shaping brass (dent removal etc.) so > > >> this wasn't foreign to me. The ID is close so it didn't take much to > > >> get it to fit over the push arm. > > >> > > >> That 5 min. LePage epoxy didn't hold that great. But the piece is more > > >> or less held in place by the arms where they pivot. > > >> > > >> Neil. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Rocket J Squirrel > > >> <camping.elliott@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>> "Embiggen" is a perfectly cromulent word. > > >>> > > >>> On that page, you wrote, "Bushing: 3/4" pipe. Annealed, expanded a little > > >>> w/normal hand tools." > > >>> > > >>> What, pray tell, hand tools does one use to expand 3/4'' pipe? And > > >>> annealing > > >>> . . . this is a process involving a leather blacksmith apron, asbestos > > >>> gloves, goggles with smoked lenses, and a small boy pulling on a bellows > > >>> -- > > >>> right? > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Neil Nicholson '81 VanaJetta 2.0 "Jaco" > > http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/ > > http://groups.google.com/group/vanagons-with-vw-inline-4-cylinder-gas-engines > > >
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