The brand name E-Z up is the only way to go, and 
it's a shade not built for heavy rain.
Mine fits in my luggage rack oops, I have the 8x8 in my luggage rack....

Rob
becida@comcast.net

At  6/20/2011 05:08 AM, B Feddish wrote:
>In addition to my Shady Boy I’ve been using 
>one of those 10x10 instant shelters.  They are 
>heavy, bulky and barely fit in the back of the 
>Vanagon.  They seen to self destruct in a heavy 
>rain which is when you most need them.  Though I 
>am ready to buy a third one shortly, like this: 
>http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/50217?feat=2-SR0 
>I was also looking at this one: 
>http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/68617?feat=2-SR0 
>. Has anybody had any experience with that one? 
>It looks like it might pack better in the back 
>of the van, or even on the luggage rack, and may 
>withstand the heavy rain better.  Any comments?
>
>Thanks
>Bryan