

| Subject: | Re: Remote starter switch mayhem (Funny -now) |
| From: | Scott Daniel - Turbovans |
| Date: | Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:35:51 -0700 |
hi TJ, great story. ( a battery switch in a wheel well though .....???? Thought you were going to say the RV parked so close you couldn't get to it ....and also............mud/crud comes to mind. ) anyway .. two things . On an automatic vanagon of my own ... I rigged up a heavy duy auxiliary starter button on the dash right above the light switch ..nice spot there. I intentionally bypassed the neutral safety switch for two reasons. the neutral swithch was acting up .. and I wanted to be able to shut off the engine, in gear, like waiting for a long light in traffic... ( then turn the key back on ) ..when it's time to go ...just push the starter button and move right out in gear ... just leave the shift lever in D or 2nd ) ... a low tech version of modern engine-stop systems that save fuel. the other item ....... I have a syncro gas tank . the whole thing, including sender. ( no filler neck though ) it's for a gasoline syncro. It is for sale or trade. Scott www.turbovans.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "TJ Hemrick" <x53gunner@GMAIL.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:57 PM Subject: Remote starter switch mayhem (Funny -now) > In the sake of safety, I'll let this one out of the bag. > After unsuccessfully working a starter problem (switch, wiring, stater, > etc...) I needed the van to work and work 100% as I had to move out of > housing that was going to be demolished (for the curious-- it was old > military housing that was sold and privatized). In the interest of making > it work, I ran two battery cables to a Hella battery disconnect switch and > jammed it (the switch) up into the rear wheel well. It worked well for > the > couple of times I used it. Late one evening, the neighbors had parked > their > U-Haul (26 footer) in our shared driveway and the back end of my Vanagon > was > a mere 20 feet from the side of the U-Haul. Now I have an automatic in > the > GL and never thought much about it. The van didn't start up, I got out, > fired the remote switch up. The van burped a few times and then, slowly > it > lurched backwards and started rolling backwards, instinctively, I ran > BEHIND > the van and BETWEEN the parked U-Haul and my moving vanagon and > frantically > struggled to JAM my foot on the brakes as fast as possible. I was only > inches from the U-Haul when I got the beast stopped. The only thing > rolling > was my neighbor after watching the modern day version of Laurel and Hardy > or > the Keystone cops. I'm laughing now but thinking about and seeing that > thing on a path for destruction was not good. The neutral safety switch > works perfectly with the KEY but when I hit the starter with the remote > switch, all bets were off. Not sure why or how or if it was just a fluke > but I'll echo Scott's words, Be D@mn careful if you rig one up. I worked > as both a Porsche and a VW tech (that's either a good or bad thing in this > case) so it's not like I didn't know better. > > TJ > > BTW, if anyone wants to trade stuff, I need a syncro fuel tank. I have > alloys, instrument cluster (4 speed w/tach), bra and some ECU, AFM, heads > (cracks between valve seats) and some other stuff. I have some older > Porsche Fuchs alloys but I'm also needing a GOOD, CLEAN, running 2.1 WBX > so > if you're doing a swap or know someone who want's some great rims, give me > a > shout. > > > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:55:00 -0700 > From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM> > Subject: Re: Remote Starter Switch Wire-up for '88GL > > re > "Because once the motor > starts turning on it's own, > you're a long ways away from turning it off " > > true if ignition is on. > often when using a remote starter switch the ignition is kept off.. > like you're testing compression, testing the starter itself etc. > > but yes.. > darn right need to be super careful at all times. > > I use a push-on connector right to the 'trigger terminal' at the starter > solenoid. > Some have two terminals there...so just plug onto one. > if there's on one trigger terminal, get a 'double up' push-in spade > connector ( not as easy to find as they were back in the old air-cooled > days ) . > then I just run it to near the alternator. > > it's not 'that advisable' to touch the end of the wire to the alternator > positive post ..but you can in an emergency. Normally you'd connect your > remote starter switch between that hot post and your cheater wire. I just > cap mine off with a twist type wire connector ..like you'd use in house > wiring . > > tuck it out of sight .. > and make sure it can't touch anything electrically .. > and you're good to go. > > you could go to the trigger terminal of the starter booster relay that you > have installed.. > but that defeats part of the idea of this cheater wire.. > the idea, for starter troubleshooting is, that the entire rest of the van > and all starter circuitry are out of the picture when you are triggering > the > solenoid directly yourself with the cheater wire and a remote starter > switch. > > One groggy day long ago...........early 70's ... > I had to get under VW bug to get it to fire up. > somehow it came down off the jack in gear and took off on it's own .. > didn't get far fortunately. That was fun. So yes...always be super > careful > working on cars .. > there are LOTS of ways to hurt yourself or others working on cars. ! > > for example.. > I have a rule to never do a tweak or an adjustment on an engine while it > is > running .. > unless it's really necessary , like to adjust idle. So even if it's just > add a wire tie say .. > something you'd think takes a second and can't possibly be dangerous ..I > only do that on , no matter how minor, on an engine that is not running. > Safety rules and procedures work better when observed black-or-white. You > don't drive 50 feet without a seat belt on. You never have loose clothing > or jewelry on working on a car. You never touch a running engine unless > it > needs to be running for the procedure, etc. > > what fun. Do good safe solid-workmanship vanagon work ! > Scott > www.turbovans.com
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