Thanks for the lead.  I also had an older model that kinda worked then didn't so now it will be recycled in the big round filer.  Peter M

> Lowes has a $40 infared gun for $10!  I always wanted one to check
> the temp in and out of radiator. http://tinyurl.com/6jn8dok  I
> ordered on-line, picked up at local store - not shipping. In-house
> trials are good so far.   Even if it is fair, cheap enough to leave
> in the Vanagon John