

| Subject: | Re: [Friday] Bolts -- Rockwell hardness translate to grade? |
| From: | Rocket J Squirrel |
| Date: | Thu, 7 Jul 2011 21:54:29 -0700 |
I guess I didn't explain that the shear bolt is supposed to shear under great stress, before the rest of the jack fails, so going to super-hard defeats this safety feature. The point of my question which might have been so long-winded that the actual sentence ending with a question mark is whether I came close to translating Rockwell hardness to bolt grade. On Fri, 2011-07-08 at 00:37 -0400, Kim Brennan wrote: > www.mcmaster.com > > Get the right stuff. If you choose the military grade stainless, it will most likely be more than enough. > > > On Jul 8, 2011, at 12:14 AM, Rocket J Squirrel wrote: > > > Hi all (jumping the gun a bit on that Friday thing . . . ) > > > > I bought a Hi Lift jack from Al "Pensioner" Knoll earlier this year. > > It's a vintage piece. Very cool. > > > > I just went to refresh the critical parts on the jack with ones from Hi > > Lift's jack rebuild kit, but the shear bolt and the climbing pins in the > > kit don't fit. > > > > Puzzled, I contacted Hi Lift and described what I was looking at and the > > fellow there said that the jack was made prior to 1960 (!) and they > > don't have parts for it. > > > > While the original climbing pins are in good shape, the original shear > > bolt is bent a bit. Needs replacing. I asked Hi Lift what grade of bolt > > I could use there and the nice man wrote back to say: > > > > "I’ve been a couple of days trying to get you an answer, but with little > > success. Our shear bolts are specially made and heat treated for us. > > The Rockwell hardness scale on these bolts ranges from B85-95, with most > > testing to B89-90. I’ve been trying to find out what bolt that compares > > to but have failed to find any comparison." > > > > So I looked at some charts this morning and, if using tensile strength > > is any indication, this Rockwell hardness translates to something like > > 88,000 psi. Grade 2 bolts come in at around 74,000 and Grade 3 (a > > rarity, I think) are more like 110,000. It's a 1/4'' bolt. > > > > Did I count on my fingers and toes good enough? > > > > The fellow went on to add that, > > > > "I know my dad would break his shear bolt and just stick another bolt > > into it, but that is not a recommended safe practice. I wish I could > > just send you a shear bolt, but we’ve checked and don’t have any laying > > around after all of these years." > > > > Fair enough. > > > > So I got four choices here: re-assemble the jack and sell it on > > craigslist with a caveat and buy a new jack, re-assemble this one with > > the deformed shear bolt and see if it holds when I need it (not so > > smart), or bang in some Grade 1 or 2 bolt* from the hardware store > > (unknown degree of smartness). > > > > Ideas? > > > > ============= > > * There does not seem to be any way to determine whether a bolt is Grade > > 1 or 2, as neither have marks on the head. So what's my Ace Hardware > > store gonna stock? It is a mystery! > > > > -- > > Rocky J Squirrel (Jack Elliott) >
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