

| Subject: | Re: Help! Hesitation on the road! |
| From: | David Vickery |
| Date: | Thu, 11 Aug 2011 19:05:37 -0700 |
I appreciate you (Dennis) taking the time to explain this. I didn't understand how it could be the problem if disconnecting the o2 sensor caused the same symptoms. Since my problem isn't fixed and I am looking for solutions, I just found this document that I think is great too. It mostly focuses on the AFM but has a lot of good info and the description of the problem sounds exactly like what I have been experiencing. www.vanagonauts.com/files/FIxSystemxAFMxproblemsxxxfix.rtf --- On Wed, 8/10/11, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote: > From: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> > Subject: Re: Help! Hesitation on the road! > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Date: Wednesday, August 10, 2011, 4:39 PM > That harness has limited success in > solving the problem and part of that > solution is the effect of modifying the AFM output. VW was > wrong. > > The O2 sensor circuit is the only circuit that actually > calibrates to a > signal, a real voltage, not a resistance change. When the > signal is weak or > there is a noise or ground problem the ECU will continue to > richen the > mixture until it sees that signal. A bad ground reference > or a shorted input > lead will even override the effect of disconnecting the > sensor. The ground > reference is the brown wire that travels in the distributor > harness. Often > it is connected to a screw at the base of the oil breather. > The plastic does > not make a good connection. Move it and if the wire in the > crimp is brown > replace a crimp ring terminal. For wire testing do the > following: > > Disconnect the O2 sensor and peel back the outer wire > sheath to expose the > outer shielding. Yes this is a coaxial wire. > > Key on-Engine off, with a sensitive or digital voltmeter > measure between the > outer shield and a good reference point on the chassis. > Should be real close > to 0 volts. > Measure from center (signal) wire to same reference. Should > be .5 to .6 > volts. > Measure from center to shield. Should be same as center to > ground. > > Any stray voltage on that shield gets added to the voltage > setting the O2 > sensor circuit is looking for. So let's say you see .25 > volt on the shield. > The ECU will not reverse and lean out the mixture until the > O2 sensor puts > out ~1.0 volt. Since normal regulation is somewhere between > .2 and .8 you > can see where this can mess things up. > > Dennis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] > On Behalf Of > george jannini > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:16 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: Help! Hesitation on the road! > > I Googled... > > VW technical service bulletins regarding driveability > complaints read as > follows- The first details problems with Digifant engines > and the second one > supercedes the first, acknowledging problems with Digijet > Waterboxers as > well. > > --- Begin quote --- > > Technical Bulletin Group: 24 Number: 92-01 Date: February > 29, 1992 > Subject: Vanagon Intermittent Misfire Model(s): All Vanagon > Digifant Fuel > Injection Engines > > CONDITION After driving for 1/2 to 2 hours at a constant > speed, vehicle > experiences lack of power, cuts-out or stalls, often > accompanied by bucking > or jerking of the vehicle. In ALL cases, the vehicle will > restart > immediately. > > This symptom may not re-occur for several weeks/months. > Inspection by the > dealer results in nothing conclusive. Some air-flow meters > may experience a > vibration resonance of the metering potentiometer wiper > during extended > constant driving. This resonance causes the air-flow meter > to supply an > intermittent signal to the Digifant ECU. The ECU will then > default to a > "no-load" condition and reduce the injection time. > > SERVICE Harness, Part No. 025 906 302, is available to > resolve this > condition. * remove electrical connector from air flow > sensor (see Figure > 24-174) * install converter assembly, Part No. 025 906 302, > between harness > and air flow sensor NOTE If customer complaints persist > after performing the > above repair, contact your Zone Product Support Specialist > (TSM in Canada) > > ____________________________________________________ > > > Technical Bulletin Group: 24 Number: 92-02 Date: April 30, > 1992 > Subject: Vanagon Drivability Complaints Model(s): All Water > Cooled Engine > Vanagons SUPERCEDES TECHNICAL BULLETIN 24-92-01 (February > 29, > 1992) > > CONDITION After driving for an extended period of time at > a constant speed, > the vehicle may, on occasion, experience a deterioration of > performance > which may be accompanied by a hesitation or surging. In > many cases, after > turning off the engine and subsequent re-start or without > having taken any > action, the symptoms disappear. These symptoms may not > recur for several > weeks or months. > > SERVICE To resolve this condition, wire harness Part No. > 025 906 302, > should be installed. This harness provides improved signal > voltage > stabilization. * remove electrical connector from air flow > sensor * install > wire harness, Part No. 025 906 302, between main harness > connection and air > flow sensor connection. > > --- End quote --- >
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