

| Subject: | Re: White Westy convoy, I-4 gasser advice |
| From: | Scott Daniel - Turbovans |
| Date: | Tue, 16 Aug 2011 22:42:13 -0700 |
I've swapped fuel types both ways.. gas to diesel , and vice versa, without removing the fuel tank or anything. just drain, add some of the new fuel, slosh that around, drain that .. etc. works just fine. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Hanson" <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 7:12 PM Subject: Re: White Westy convoy, I-4 gasser advice > There will be those who chime in now about how "it's not so simple...you > gotta___, and _____ and then..." blah blah blah"...and they will be right, > sort of. Changing a motor is not ever "really" easy and you will have > some > crappy tasks like swapping the diesel tank or douching it out well...dunno > if that even works. > But as engine swaps go, I would think you will never find a simpler one > than substituting a gas inline for you VW diesel...almost everything works > the same, unlike when you swap in a Subie or a Ford where you have to fool > the sensors and instruments or adjust all the systems to be compatible > between brands, buy all kinds of adaptor plates, rework the cooling > systems, > cross-pollinate engine management systems, find different mounting > systems, > move the tranny, etc etc etc.... > > Reliability is not an issue with a VW inline. There are hundreds of > thousands of them running world-wide with super-high mileage...Most > mechanics with any VW knowledge can manage to work on them...Heck, I > figured > it out and I am a total hack mechanic...They are really simple and > straightforward motors with pretty basic fuel injection systems...about 4 > or > 5 things have to be pretty right for them to work....All those 'crucial' > things are easy to get to and inexpensive to buy should you need.. > > Gasoline cost per mile...it probably works out better than driving a > diesel...I have not done the math but 23mpg is what I get with my ABA and > 25 > was what my 1.8 liter gave.....given that gas is less expensive at the > pump...dunno whether you are saving anything there. The cost of the > motors....that is where you really make out. I see people spending > thousands on a re-build of diesels, thousands on Subie conversions, > thousands on new heads for a WBX...I don't see over a thousand in an > inline > four...and should you ever need another, they go for around $300 on The > Samba or Craigs list or at your local import parts yard....I don't think > you > can even buy a gasket set to rebuild one of the other options for that > money... > > I think you should go for it. If you don't like the gasser...chuck it in > the dumpster and rebuild your old diesel....You wouldn't be out much... > > Don Hanson > > > On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Shawn Wright > <shawngwright@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Michael, >> >> I agree on the reliability issue. I've been driving VW diesels since the >> early 80s, and have put many trouble free miles on them. But priorities >> change over the years, and now that we're driving less than 30k kms >> annually >> between two vehicles (only 5-8k on the van), reliability and fuel economy >> are not as significant. The other big priority that has changed is >> family - >> our kids will be on their own in a few years, so I'd like to enjoy the >> time >> we have with them instead of in the garage. The reality is that if I'd >> not >> gone cheap on the 1.6TD 5 years ago (total spent was under $700, mostly >> on >> a >> h/g, rings, and head rebuild), and done a full rebuild, or got a 1.9 >> block, >> the engine would probably last as long as we needed it to. If I determine >> my >> leak sources are not from the h/g, I might squeak another year from this >> engine. If I need to pull the head, I'd sooner swap the whole engine. I >> don't know much about the ABA, and gas FI systems do scare me a bit, but >> I >> have time to learn more and decide if I want to venture into the gasser >> world or not... >> >> Thanks for the feedback. >> >> Shawn >> '88 Westy 1.6TD >> '04 Jetta TDI >> >>
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