I see them starting in 1985 ..
in 7 passenger models.
and probably a 'GL' thing more ..
like I suspect an 85 non-GL may not have a Z-bed rear seat.
the 'model guru's' will know more accurately.

most 86's and up, 7 passenger models, have them, that I've seen.

no 80 to 84 ever has one, that I've seen.
Scott
www.turbovans.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "craig cowan" <phishman068@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: Full Width Z-Bed installation struggle.

> What year were these "z beds" factory on passanger vans?
> I was unaware that they weren't standard on all of them.
>
> -Craig
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <
> scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
>
>> Should be straight forward.
>> take the wooden panel fully off of course.
>> also ..
>> this helps ..
>> remove the lower seat from the frame by removing 4 13mm hex head bolts,
>> two
>> on each end.
>> remove the seat back by removing 4 large phillips head screws..
>> then it should be pretty easy.
>>
>> you also need the dedicated outboard seat belt straps to go with the
>> Z-Bed.
>>
>> Scott
>> www.turbovans.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "robby kilborn" <robbykilborn@GMAIL.COM>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 4:51 PM
>> Subject: Full Width Z-Bed installation struggle.
>>
>>
>>  I have a z-bench (pretty sure that's what its called) from a 1990 Donor
>>> Syncro, to replace my other bench, which just folds forward, instead of
>>> the
>>> collapsing/flattening action of the Westy style bench.
>>>
>>> I don't remember having any issues taking it out of the other van, but
>>> its
>>> been nearly a year since I did that, and I can't get some of the bolts
>>> in.
>>> There is a plate in front of the lower bolt (behind the wooden foot
>>> panel.)
>>> I don't remember having any issues getting it out, but this time the
>>> bolt
>>> is
>>> concealed... Has anyone else removed and reinstalled this type of full
>>> width
>>> bench?
>>>
>>> Help is appreciated.
>>>
>>> 1987 VW Vanagon Syncro.
>>>
>>