I have been told that it is better to use 1.9 waterboxer rod bolts in any
waterboxer engine, as they are not stretch type, like 2.1 ones are.

Scott

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Lambas" <twlambas@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: Thread locker on rod bolts?

> I'm guessing the 1.9 nut has the shoulder so it can be peened into the
> notch
> of the older rods.  All but one pair of the nuts that came on the
> assembled
> rods has the shoulder (one pair doesn't).  I'm going with the nuts that
> came
> installed on each corresponding rod. I can't see that it would cause
> problem. I'll see what Van Cafe has to say about it tomorrow.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Dennis Haynes
> <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>> According to my old version of ETKA, both engines use connecting rod set
>> part # 025198401A. However the 1.9 uses rod bolt 113105425B and nut
>> 113105427. The 2.1 uses bolt 025105425A and nut 056105427.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Tom Lambas [mailto:twlambas@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:45 PM
>> To: Dennis Haynes
>> Cc: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
>> Subject: Re: Thread locker on rod bolts?
>>
>>
>>
>> The bolts all look the same - 1.9 type I presume.
>> Per Van Cafe I torqued the nuts all down to 33 lbs.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> If the nuts are mixed, what about the bolts? Sounds like you have a 1.9
>> and
>> 2.1 mixed set. Common from some of the mass rebuilders. I love getting
>> mixed
>> sets of brake calipers!
>>
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
>> Of
>> Tom Lambas
>>
>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 6:17 PM
>>
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>
>> Subject: Re: Thread locker on rod bolts?
>>
>>
>> Thanks Dennis,
>>
>> I decided not to use threadlocker. Removeable stuff was on advice of
>> FLAPS
>> guy.
>>
>> As an aside, one of the rods I got from Van Cafe has the divot for
>> peening
>> the shoulder of the rod nut into it, and the rest don't. Also one set of
>> nuts (for one cap) has no shoulder.
>> Maybe this helps them "balance" the set.
>> Thoughts anyone?
>>
>> Tom L.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Dennis Haynes
>> <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> > If you're going to use a thread locker you want the strong stuff
>> > there. Why even consider removable? Call Loctite and get the new
>> > torque specs for that application. If the Loctite should do anything
>> > at all the connection has already failed.
>> >
>> > Dennis
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>> > Behalf Of Tom Lambas
>> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 1:27 PM
>> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> > Subject: Thread locker on rod bolts?
>> >
>> > We'll, I'm back from summer travel and getting back to my 2.1 WBX
>> rebuild.
>> >
>> > I'm installing Rods from Van Cafe. Should I use some removable thread
>> > locker on the rod bolt/nut?
>> >
>> > Thanks, Tom
>> >
>> >
>>