hi Jim,
if you are wishing to purchase a complete stock set-up at a reasonable
price..
that can be arranged.
They're not 'discarded'.
 I save all parts for all water-cooled vanagons and syncro's that I ever
get.
So when people need something ....I might be able to help them out.
 And it's my business of course too.
and I keep the parts indoors, well organized ......like decent, not hacked
or missing stuff etc.

Scott
www.turbovans.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Felder" <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: More v belt questions

> Scott,
>
> I could use one of those discarded two-belt systems...
>
> Jim
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <
> scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
>
>> I just mentioned something about this the other day.
>>
>> you can easily make a cheater single belt system ..
>> but ..
>> your water pump drive ratio will be too slow.
>> Ratio of crankshaft diameter to water pump pulley should be in the area
>> of
>> about 5 to 4.
>>
>> I 'could'........at least..
>> if not offer the kit,
>> offer the parts list to build a super perfect Single Belt Conversion.
>>
>> and ..we just yakked about this a lot, with people saying they don't mind
>> their two belts-with-shims systems.
>> I hate them of course.
>> I *always* am building things so they are easy to work on.
>> That manufacturers and engine conversion-ers don't keep that foremost in
>> mind in everything they build and design ...drives me nuts.
>>
>> just like people don't take a jacket with them in case the weather
>> changes
>> .....or check that there is air in the spare tire and a million things
>> like
>> that...evidently people have it in the back of their minds ..'well, it
>> won't
>> need to be worked on that often ..so it's all right if it's really
>> difficult
>> to do. Won't happen that often.'
>>
>> yeah, right.
>> there are so many things in cars that could be SO much easier to deal
>> with
>> ..
>> and it's also why I have no interest or need in owning any vehicle  newer
>> than the early 90's at the latest.
>> heck ..
>> even a 93 Eurovan is a complete nightmare to work on compared the any
>> vanagon.
>> And as cars go ..
>> vanagons are about as nice to work on in about 90 % of the whole vehicle
>> as
>> cars get ..
>> super sweet that way ..which is just one of about 30 reasons why Vanagons
>> are world class keeper vehicles ..
>> there's just one thing they really screwed up on though ..
>> the diesel vanagon two belts with shims alt and w. pump drive system.
>> I would pay near anything to have the designer of that system , or
>> designers...
>> and make them take that apart, and put it back together..
>> over and over and over , in the van, until their fingers are bloody, then
>> make them do it some more.
>> It's a joke..
>> it's totally unnecessary. There is zero gain from having that dumb system
>> on
>> there.
>> Any VW diesel engine I build automatically gets a good solid Single Belt
>> Conversion if it had a two belts with shim system to start with.
>>
>> what fun !
>> Scott
>> www.turbovans.com
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "ralph meyermann" <ralphmeyermann@GMAIL.COM>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:18 PM
>> Subject: More v belt questions
>>
>>
>>  Hi all me again,I hate having to shim the waterpump pulley to tighten
>> the
>>> lower belt then use alternator to tighten the upper, can I use a one
>>> belt
>>> set up? My crank pulley seems to line up with the back waterpump an
>>> alt,pulley any suggestions? Thanks 82 westy 1.6 na diesel
>>>
>>