

| Subject: | Re: Problem with 1991 Vanagon cooling system |
| From: | Alistair Bell |
| Date: | Sat, 10 Sep 2011 11:31:31 -0700 |
I think Frank Grunthaler installed one years ago in his I4 gas converted diesel westy. It might be mistaken, but I think he had more than one gage in the engine compartment, one of them was a press, gage. A not very clear pic is here on my old website http://www.members.shaw.ca/albell/notable_vans.html Drop him a line. alistair On 2011-09-10, at 10:41 AM, Jim Felder wrote: > Resolved, I think. > > It was worse than I knew, upon inspection. The lip of the plastic pipe had > broken off and was stuck inside the hose, preventing it from going on very > far. I took a dremel tool and made two annular grooves around the pipe about > 1/32nd deep each, there is just enough clearance to do that with a dremel. > Then I shoved the hose way up on the pipe and put two clamps, one over each > groove. Then I took a known bad coolant cap (how hard are those to find?) > and attached a pressure gauge to it with a short length of fuel hose and I > filled and fired it up. > > I did all the usual recommended ritual, except I do not raise either end of > the car nor park it on an incline, a good way to get hurt working on a car. > I watched the temp rise to normal and saw the pressure rise to six pounds > with the upper radiator cool. Then the pressure dropped to four pounds as > the upper radiator got hot. Temp needle steady during this time. Idled for > 20 minutes to half an hour, watched the pressure bounce around between 4 and > 5 PPI depending on the fan cycling on and off. > > Cooled down, replaced the pressure tester with a known good cap, and did two > cooldowns and test drives. > > > Everything AOK, no high pressures from leaking heads. > > I am so happy with the results of my tester that I am seriously thinking > about a pressure sensor that would display the pressure in the system on my > dash. That would be a lot better than a temp gauge or coolant level light. > The driver would be one level closer to knowing about a problem than with > either of the two more derivative systems that come on the car. As in, you > would know the moment something was going wrong, not minutes later. > > Has anyone installed such a modification? Or any ideas as to how? > > Jim > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 6:44 AM, Jim Johnston <inmytree1@gmail.com> wrote: > >> A few years ago, I had the coolant t/junction piece blowout due to too much >> pressure in the system. >> >> Turned out to be a bad radiator. >> >> >> Jim >> Wilmington, NC >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I am no stranger to Vanagon 2.1 cooling problems, but I could use some >>> opinions as how to proceed with my daughter's 1991 GL. >>> >>> She let it get low on coolant a year or so ago (weird leaks, she has >>> actually taken pretty good care of the car). But in a year and a half or >>> so, >>> it is split two primary coolant bottles, popped a hose or two, blew a >>> chunk >>> out of the rear heater valve housing, and blown the big bottom hose off >>> its >>> plastic pipe. There have always been other explanations as to these >>> blowouts >>> and such, but as always those can be rationalizations as much as >>> explanations. >>> >>> It is the plastic pipe problem that I have been dealing with lately. Some >>> time ago the metal end pulled out of the pipe. I did what I have always >>> successfully done which is to epoxy it back in and never think about it >>> again. But today she was driving and it popped loose and drained all the >>> coolant. She refilled with water and got to my house and I put in an epoxy >>> lip around the end of the plastic pipe as I had done many years ago on a >>> 1990, and never had another issue with it. I actually did a better job on >>> hers than I did on my Carat, yet the hose blew off with the epoxy lip >>> minutes after startup. >>> >>> I suspect that I have a leaking head gasket overpressurizing the system, >>> but >>> there are no other symptoms suggesting it. I have not kept coolant in it >>> recently long enough to tell exhaust gases are dirtying the coolant and I >>> have not done the overnight cooldown test where you start it up and run it >>> for 30 seconds to see if that puts pressure into the coolant system. >>> >>> I am going to try this weekend making a wire lip that sits in a groove >>> that >>> I will dremel into the end of the plastic pipe and see if that holds by >>> sheer mechanical force. >>> >>> Any other suggestions? I especially want to hear from anyone who has >>> converted to coolant hose to replace the plastic pipe and has details to >>> share. >>> >>> Jim >>> >> >>
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