John,

here is the list I sent yesterday, does it not make sense to you which terminals have power at what conditions?

alistair

> 
> So here is what I think they do, open to corrections:
> 
> G1&  G3 - X-bus controlled power
> G2&  G5 #15, ign. switched power via fuse S18
> G4 - D+ (alternator trigger circuit) via dash alt. led
> G6 - dead end
> G7 - power with headlight on
> G8 - dimmer controlled panel lighting power
> G9 - license plate lights circuit, via fuse S20
> G10 - hot when windscreen washer runs (used for headlight washer)
> 
> 
> and the M terminals below
> 
> M1 - tied to G7
> M2 - power when low beams on
> 
> 
> This is for my '86 syncro passenger van.

On 2011-09-09, at 8:53 AM, John Rodgers wrote:

> Mark,
> 
> I note several unused pins on the "G" panel on the fuseblock. What are
> they used for? Might one of these work for my wire. The wire connects
> to  the supply side of the relay - or relay pin 87.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John .
> 
> John Rodgers
> Clayartist and Moldmaker
> 88'GL VW Bus Driver
> Chelsea, AL
> Http://www.moldhaus.com
> 
> 
> On 9/9/2011 9:30 AM, mark drillock wrote:
>> Maybe it already has headlight relays installed?
>> 
>> There are 7 P connections. 2 are always used by the base vehicle.
>> 
>> That leaves 5 for options/expansion.
>>  power windows use 1
>>  power locks use 1
>>  gas fired heater uses 1 (rare)
>>  typical headlight relay kit uses 2
>> 
>> Is the other larger .375" P spade available?
>> If so, put a bigger end on your new wire and use it.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> John Rodgers wrote:
>>> I was going to upgrade my headlight circuits with headlight relays to
>>> handle new higher wattage lights. Part of this requires cutting some
>>> wires and these wires are clearly identified in the instructions. When I
>>> went to do this, and removed the steering column cover to better see
>>> what I was doing, I discovered a rat's net of wires where the PO had
>>> done a whole lot of upgrading for himself. There is no way for me to
>>> identify all those wires making the install non-compatible. So, what
>>> to do?
>>> 
>>> I decided to use the TJ Hannick approach, using 30 amp relay mounted on
>>> the dash fascia on the left side of the insturment pod and under the
>>> instrument pod cover. Four wires, no cutting, plug and play - Right?
>>> Wrong!!!
>>> 
>>> The first three wires to the relay were a snap. But the fourth - the one
>>> that powers the control circuit inside the relay - the fourth one is to
>>> be plugged into the "P" panel on the back side of the fuse block. Once
>>> that last wire is connected - the light would/should work. Well, no
>>> joy!! I dropped the fuse block, only to discover that the "P" panel
>>> looked like a Christmas tree loaded with ornaments. The PO in his
>>> rewiring, had used all 6 output pins and had put extenders on them,
>>> increasing their ability to carry more connectors with wires. But to the
>>> detriment of adding anything else at all!!!
>>> 
>>> My question here is - where else can I connect to pull power for getting
>>> the relay to work.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> -- John Rodgers Clayartist and Moldmaker 88'GL VW Bus Driver Chelsea, AL
>>> Http://www.moldhaus.com
>>> 
>> 
>>