

| Subject: | Re: Problem with 1991 Vanagon cooling system |
| From: | Scott Daniel - Turbovans |
| Date: | Fri, 9 Sep 2011 12:22:56 -0700 |
hi Jim, re a coolant smell at the exhaust pipe " I wouldn't agree with that at all, on waterboxers. Sure.....once in a while there is a clear case of a-frz or a-frz smell at the tail pipe. Mostly .......there isn't . Especially if it's combustion gases getting into the cooling system. No tail pipe symptoms at all usually, in a case like that. Whether waterboxer or Subaru engine ...no tail pipe smell or white smoke etc. 'Usually.' I'm still curious about how long the heads have been on. Scott www.turbovans.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Felder" <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 6:25 AM Subject: Re: Problem with 1991 Vanagon cooling system > When cars have bad head gaskets and pressurize their coolant systems and > start blowing stuff, the "blowing out" symptoms are almost always > accompanied by several other symptoms: a coolant smell at the exhaust > pipe, > a noticeable loss of coolant over a short period of time, and running hot > at > least when pulling a grade. > > This car has none of those characteristics. It never overheats, but has a > rock-steady-in-the-middle temp needle, until a bottom hose blows off a > pipe > (the flange is gone at the particular junction in question). > > It has never blown a hose in the two years I've owned it, but has split > various plastic things like coolant tanks. The heater valve mishap was > probably due to the fact that my daughter added water on a cold night, and > then coolant, but didn't start the car. I think the water trapped i the > rear > heater froze and broke the thing. And if this is a head gasket problem, > why > has it never blown anything on or close to the engine? > > I'm not saying I know the answer, I am just asking the question. I have a > lot of experience working on vanagons, but this is the first time I have > seen one head gasket symptom without the others. > > That's what makes me think this latest round, after no trouble all during > the hot summer, is just the pipe coupling itself. > > Jim > > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 6:44 AM, Jim Johnston <inmytree1@gmail.com> wrote: > >> A few years ago, I had the coolant t/junction piece blowout due to too >> much >> pressure in the system. >> >> Turned out to be a bad radiator. >> >> >> Jim >> Wilmington, NC >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I am no stranger to Vanagon 2.1 cooling problems, but I could use some >>> opinions as how to proceed with my daughter's 1991 GL. >>> >>> She let it get low on coolant a year or so ago (weird leaks, she has >>> actually taken pretty good care of the car). But in a year and a half or >>> so, >>> it is split two primary coolant bottles, popped a hose or two, blew a >>> chunk >>> out of the rear heater valve housing, and blown the big bottom hose off >>> its >>> plastic pipe. There have always been other explanations as to these >>> blowouts >>> and such, but as always those can be rationalizations as much as >>> explanations. >>> >>> It is the plastic pipe problem that I have been dealing with lately. >>> Some >>> time ago the metal end pulled out of the pipe. I did what I have always >>> successfully done which is to epoxy it back in and never think about it >>> again. But today she was driving and it popped loose and drained all the >>> coolant. She refilled with water and got to my house and I put in an >>> epoxy >>> lip around the end of the plastic pipe as I had done many years ago on a >>> 1990, and never had another issue with it. I actually did a better job >>> on >>> hers than I did on my Carat, yet the hose blew off with the epoxy lip >>> minutes after startup. >>> >>> I suspect that I have a leaking head gasket overpressurizing the system, >>> but >>> there are no other symptoms suggesting it. I have not kept coolant in it >>> recently long enough to tell exhaust gases are dirtying the coolant and >>> I >>> have not done the overnight cooldown test where you start it up and run >>> it >>> for 30 seconds to see if that puts pressure into the coolant system. >>> >>> I am going to try this weekend making a wire lip that sits in a groove >>> that >>> I will dremel into the end of the plastic pipe and see if that holds by >>> sheer mechanical force. >>> >>> Any other suggestions? I especially want to hear from anyone who has >>> converted to coolant hose to replace the plastic pipe and has details to >>> share. >>> >>> Jim >>> >> >>
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