Yep, & that is a problem when you use Paypal.

I have never been burned yet by Paypal, but that is a typical scam by buyers when you accept PP-so beware!

YMMV,

Mr. BZ-1st clue to moi was when the buyer in Thailand was willing to pay shipping that was much more than the cost of the windows I was selling-he didn't care about the cost as he was going to get his $$ back from PP & moi!

On Sep 16, 2011, at 4:40 PM, J Stewart wrote:

> I too have had good luck on Ebay, and have even bought 2 cars (1 Vanagon) and 2 motorcycles off Ebay. But as a seller I may be done. A while back, I sold an item. Buyer emails me it is defective and wants his money back. I respond that I don't recall it being "defective", but by all means send it back and if it is I'll refund his money. Two days later he files a Paypal claim against me. I respond to Paypal with the same, if he sends it back and he is correct I'll refund his money. A few days later Paypal deducts the money from my account and refunds it to this scumbag! And he still has the item! He never sent it back. I must have sent a half dozen emails to Paypal asking where was the fairness to me in all this? The buyer keeps the item and gets a full refund. What a deal-for him!!
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> Jeff Stewart
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> Although my experience over the last 10+ years on eBay has been very good
> and without any problems I've seen many very negative attitudes expressed
> about eBay and especially their lack of interest or help with problems.
> Well, last night I watched a sterling example of eBay policing itself.
> I had searched for a specific item and found a bunch listed. But as I
> browsed through the listings some of them began to hold my attention and all
> taken into account they smelled very fishy. And all had things said in the
> adds that violated at least two of eBays rules. There were 6 or 8 such
> adds. Well, stumbling through their support pages I found the place to
> report suspicious adds. Within 20 minutes the first set of suspicious adds
> had disappeared. I then did the same thing for the other half of the adds
> I'd seen and again, withing a few minutes those adds had disappeared.
> This is not the first time I've seen quick action by eBay when there was
> something fishy going on. On another list the I subscribe to that deals
> with a very special and expensive small telescope from time to time we see
> scam adds for these telescopes. And on one occasion one that was known to
> be stolen based on the serial number. Reports to eBay about such adds are
> dealt with by the end of the day and sometimes in minutes.
> Such action by eBay is reassuring that they at least try to police things.
> But still, Buyer Be Aware, when something just doesn't ring true or is "To
> good to be true" back off and be very careful.