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Subject:Re: [Diesel-Vanagon] No luck getting injection pump drive shaft seal out
From:Poppie Jagersand
Date:Tue, 27 Sep 2011 19:47:09 -0700

What size drill and screw did you use?

I used a relatively small drill (5/64"), so couldn't get my smallest #6 drywall screws in.
What i tried with were small wood screws.

Just thought of a new idea: Find a large washer, pre drill it with 8 or more holes in the drill press, then screw the washer to the seal and pry on the washer. That way the prying force is distributed thtough several screws at a time. Will see what I can find in my assorted hardware box (I always pick up any hardware I see on the street... wife doesn't like that) Worst case I have to make the trip to the screw store across town. Long gone is the neighborhood hardware store.

Martin (and '82 Westy 1.9TD "Poppie")

----- Original Message -----
From: Erik Lane <eriklane@gmail.com>
To: Diesel-Vanagon@yahoogroups.com
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:37:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Diesel-Vanagon] No luck getting injection pump drive shaft seal out

Heh, yeah, that seal can be a real pain. I finally managed to get mine off
using some wood screws with really deep threads to pull it off. The threads
had a large circumference in relation to the body of the screw, is what I
mean by deep.

If you're using small metal screws try using some wood, or even sheetrock
screws. Those should have a bit better bite and be harder to strip.

Otherwise???

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Poppie Jagersand <poppie.jagersand@yahoo.ca
> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Got another couple of hours work on the Diesel injection pump issue today,
> but made no real progress. Yesterday before it got dark I had gotten the
> timing belt and pulley off so I had access to the injection pump drive shaft
> seal.
>
> Today I tried getting the drive shaft seal out in various ways:
>
> 1. drilled small holes with a dremel in the (metal) lip of the seal.
> Screwed in screws and tugged at the screws. Unfportunately the screws would
> strip the threads and seal would not move.
>
> 2. Along the lines of this guy I tried to pry it out. Also no luck.
> http://crustycrank.com/resealinjpump.htm
> (I used one of those trim removal tools which gave me a nice grip behind
> the seal lip, but I could not make it move. Tried pulling straingt out with
> both hands (real knuckle buster working witht he pump in the van). Also
> tried leveraging the pry tool off the pump flange. Still no luck.
>
> 3. Made a hook from a bike spoke with the flange cut off. I could get the
> J-part in betwen the seal and shaft, then tuen it 90degrees and have the J
> catch the seal lip. However either the seal lip would pierce or the bike
> spoke bend would straighten, but the seal would not move.
>
> So much trouble for what I thought shoudl have been a relatively easy
> seal-pop-out...
>
> Anyone has suggestions for what to do?
>
> I could use a drift and try to collapse the seal outer ring, but I'm adraid
> a slip would make me strike the drive shaft just on the surface where the
> seal rides.
>
> Thanks for any tips or ideas.
>
> Martin (and '82 Westy 1.9TD "Poppie")
>� 
>

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