

| Subject: | Re: An interesting article on gas mileage vs wheel size |
| From: | Rob |
| Date: | Sun, 30 Oct 2011 18:13:29 -0700 |
I've been using http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=298574 to figure out my 'other' wheel/size issues Some good information there with drawings and measurements and all that useful stuff. Rob becida@comcast.net At 10/30/2011 04:56 PM, BenT Syncro wrote: >Hi Ken, > >The trouble I find with using "backspace" is people either use a >calculated measurement whilst others physically measure the wheel. >One or the other frequently do not take into account that wheel size >often does not take the dimensions of the area past where the bead would seat. > >Anyway, here's how I read your wheel. ET42 at 7.5" wide compared to >a factory alloy wheel of ET30 at 6.0" wide. On the inside edge, you >are likely to see the inner edge move inwards 31.05mm compared to >stock. That's 12mm for the offset difference plus another 19.05mm >(0.75") because of the wider wheel. You will have clearance issues >unless you correct the offset with spacers as you already surmised. > >You could get away with a range of spacer thicknesses depending on >what you what to accomplish. Personally, i would adjust to the >factory offset of ET30 w/ 12mm spacers. You will need >proportionately longer bolts up front and longer studs in the rear >unless you have a big brake kit with studs in front. If you do, then >longer front studs are also in order. Don't forget that you will >need to factor in the thickness of the wheel mounting pad unless you >recontour the lugholes to a 60 degree conical seat. An alternative >would be bolt on spacers which have studs. > >There will be .75" more wheel on the inside and outer edge. >Suspension geometry should be unchanged. You should be able to clear >the steering components. The downside is you will have more 'splash' >from the tire compared to stock. Tire selection can become critical >if you go to a larger offset depending on sidewall bulge. > >On the upside, thick spacers often make up enough distance between >the tall 2wd dust cap so machining the centerbore might not be needed. > > > >BenT >sent from my electronic leash > >On Oct 30, 2011, at 1:32 PM, "Ken Lewis" <kdlewis@northstate.net> wrote: > > > Two wheel drive DOKA. > > > > Offset is 42. I arrived at the back spacing by dividing the > width, 7.5"(190.5mm) by two and adding the offset. A formula I > found in the Vanagon archives. I "assumed" it to be correct. > > Ken > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "BenT Syncro" <syncro@gmail.com> > > To: "Ken Lewis" <kdlewis@NORTHSTATE.NET> > > Cc: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > > Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 3:32 PM > > Subject: Re: An interesting article on gas mileage vs wheel size > > > > > > Putting on a 2wd? Do you have the offset rather than a measured > or calculated backspace? It's the figure that says 'ET' followed by > a couple of numbers. I'd like to help but don't want to rely on the > expression of offset as backspace because accuracy can be affected > by how you arrived at that number IMHO. > > > > > > > > BenT > > > > sent from my electronic leash > > > > On Oct 29, 2011, at 9:43 AM, Ken Lewis <kdlewis@NORTHSTATE.NET> wrote: > > > >> I found this article while researching what it would take to get 17"x7.5" > >> Audi A4 wheels to work on my crewcab. > >> > >> This line caught my eye;" What's immediately apparent from the results is > >> that as the wheel-and-tire packages get larger and heavier, > acceleration and > >> fuel economy suffer. Neither is a huge surprise, but we measured a > >> 10-percent drop in fuel economy and a four-percent degradation in > >> 0-to-60-mph acceleration from the 15s to the 19s". > >> > >> I looked at these this morning. > >> http://winstonsalem.craigslist.org/pts/2618213904.html . Nice looking BIG > >> wheels. Some road rash. He also has the longer lug bolts. > >> > >> The bolt hole size is good but it appears the center bore > (~57mm) would need > >> to be opened up. I need to actualy take a front wheel off my truck and do > >> some measuring . I have read the grease cap can be shortened to get rid of > >> the lip. > >> > >> I arrived at a back spacing of 137.25mm on the Audi wheels . By my > >> calculations I would need a 14mm spacer? Anyone? > >> > >> Thanks Ken > > > >
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