

| Subject: | Re: bmw brake booster "upgrade" |
| From: | Raimund Feussner |
| Date: | Mon, 7 Nov 2011 19:45:52 +0100 |
Oh, by the way: Also the Diesel Vac pump has no difficulties with the bigger booster. Raimund Am 07.11.2011 19:40, schrieb Raimund Feussner: > The BMW 10" booster conversion is very popular in Germany. > It is a cheap (used), nice addition and a great brake performance > optimisation. Of course, the brakes are not getting better, but it´s a > very comfy feeling getting the same brake pressure with less foot force. > I combined this with my Audi 288x25mm brakes and it works great. > > The next step is a 9"+10" tandem brake booster, which I already have > prepared to go in the van this winter. I tested it in a friend´s > Vanagon (Touareg brakes on the front) and there you have it: An anchor... > > Regards > Raimund > > > Am 07.11.2011 15:09, schrieb Ken Wilford: >> I guess if you have the tools and skills to do some minor mods then this >> "upgrade" is doable but I really don't see the advantage. Unless you >> are putting in a used booster (bad plan) you are not saving enough money >> for this swap to be worthwhile financially. That one site you quoted >> has a low price for this but you did notice that they are saying "Call >> for availability"? That is parts store code for "we have a great price >> but we actually don't have any to sell you". >> >> The part is an ATE part just like the Vanagon one. It is similar in >> size and function so how can the price be much less than the Vanagon >> version? It can't unless you are going to go used. It involves some >> modification which takes time, effort and skill on your part. That is >> worth something. >> >> To me the best way to go is to still get the stock booster and just swap >> that out. I know it is a chunk of money but you shouldn't need another >> one for another 26 years. If you are really smart then you should also >> remove, clean and service your front blower housing at the same time >> (inspect front heater core). That way you aren't doing the dash removal >> again in a year or two. >> >> If this was worth while I would be all over it. But I have looked >> through my sources and I can't find a source for this part that is >> cheaper than the Vanagon booster wholesale price. Replace a Vanagon >> part with a BMW part and it is supposed to be cheaper? Since when are >> BMW parts cheap? :-) >> >> I can't speak to the "upgrade" part of this. Bigger is usually >> considered better here in the US so I guess even if it is an 1/8" bigger >> in diameter then it would be considered better. You would be surprised >> the placebo effect that you get when someone does one of these "upgrade" >> mods. Of course if their old booster was bad the new one is going to be >> an "upgrade" in comparison. There are tons of cars out there running >> with magnets on the fuel lines, vortex generators in the intake, and >> hydrogen splitters to attest that "seat of the pants" beats actual >> science in most peoples' minds any day. :-) >> >> Ken Wilford >> John 3:16 >> www.vanagain.com >> >> >> On 11/5/2011 9:46 PM, pickle vanagon wrote: >>> Over at thesamba, there's a thread on "upgrading" the vanagon >>> booster to >>> BMW model that is larger diameter: >>> http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=443880&highlight=brake+booster+dash >>> >>> >>> And, viewing other threads over there, it seems several of their forum >>> members have done this, seeming satisfied with the results. >>> >>> Has anyone hear made the change? >>> >>> I ask because I think I may have to replace our booster, and the BMW >>> booster's price new seems to be about half that of the vanagon booster. >>> (e.g., here: >>> http://catalog.importrp.com/item.wws?mfr=ATE&sku=BMW018726&source=GOOGLEBASE >>> >>> ) >>> (I'm not interested in installing a used booster.) >>> >>> My understanding is that: >>> 1) maximum braking power won't be improved, as this is limited by the >>> calipers and hydraulic system, not the strength of my legs at this >>> point. >>> But: >>> 2) the power required to achieve any given braking power will be >>> reduced, >>> so the brakes should be more "responsive" in that sense >>> 3) otherwise there don't seem to be major downsides. >>> >>> Obviously, I'm especially interested in any thoughts/feedback on #3. >>>
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