

| Subject: | Re: Oil pressure light in 1.9l at idle |
| From: | pickle vanagon |
| Date: | Mon, 28 Nov 2011 09:06:35 -0500 |
Thanks for all the replies, guys. I don't know the idle speed as I don't have a tach. This episode has got me convinced that I should remedy that. I can hook something up to check the rpms from the engine bay but that's not really going to be that useful I think, since I suspect that what's going on is that I have an occasional low rpm issue that arises in certain conditions. I actually already a wire I ran coil to the dash a while back, I just haven't hooked it up to anything yet. Is the best tach the one in a cluster from a later year vanagon? Oil is not overfilled. I strive for the halfway mark, though right now its 3/4's of the way up. The engine hasn't been rebuilt (although I did the top end a few years ago). I guess my only other question at this point is whether a VDO gauge setup is accurate enough for the purpose of checking the running oil pressure? On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>wrote: > What speed is the engine idling at? Much below 850 will cause the light to > flicker. I set to 900-950. > Oil level? Be sure it is not overfilled. The top mark is not the full mark, > it is the "Max do not exceed no matter what" mark. > The Mobil 15w-50 is good down to near single digits. The Castrol 5w-50 > seems > to thin out at higher temps even though it should be the same viscosity as > 50 at 100C. > Is this an original engine with 100K on it or a rebuild? The 1.9L do wear > the bearing saddles and loos oil pressure over time. The owner's manual > even > states that in some conditions the warning light will come on. It would be > good to test the oil pressure. The wear limit is 28 psi at 4,000 rpm. > > Dennis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of > pickle vanagon > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 10:27 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Oil pressure light in 1.9l at idle > > On our returning-home-after-thanksgiving drive, we had some scary oil light > flicker. > > Here are the details: > > Engine has just a little over 100k miles on it. > I typically run Mobil 1 15w50 in it, but shortly before this drive changed > the oil to Castrol Syntec 5w50, hoping to achieve better lubrication during > cold-starts in the winter. I used a Mobil 1 filter (which I've used > occasionally before, though now it was replacing a Fram tough-guard). > Flicker definitely seemed related to oil pressure. That is: it only came > on > after driving fast for a long block of time, and then letting the engine > drop to idle. After I first noticed a flicker happen once and confirming > the oil level was fine, I tried this experiment several times and could > often get some flickers out of it, although not always. Raising the engine > rpms *at all* would completely kill the flicker. I couldn't give it even a > tiny amount of gas and still have flicker, even after a long run. > > Further mitigating factors: > We have an auxiliary battery setup with heavy gauge wire coupling the > batteries via a Stancor relay. The auxiliary battery is a year old or so > and so almost certainly in worse condition than the starter battery, since > that never gets drained at all. I have the batteries set up so that a > switch can be used to kill the stancor relay when driving (or force it to > be > engaged when the engine is off). Anyways, with the stancor relay disabled, > I wouldn't get any oil light flicker, as the engine was idling high enough > to avoid it. The flicker was only happening after a long fast run *and* at > especially low rpms, which would only happen when both batteries where > being > powered by the alternator. > > > Obviously I find this all pretty scary! I figure the first step is to > figure out what my oil pressure is at various operating speeds and > temperatures. So I've ordered parts to install an oil pressure gauge. > > I realize there's a lower threshold (blue) .25 bar switch that VW > recommends > to replace the existing .3 bar switch, which would likely eliminate my > flicker, but right now I'm just worried this is an indication of deeper > problems. I've ordered one of these switches anyways just in case my > current switch is bad, but the behavior I'm seeing rules out a wiring issue > I think, and I haven't actually heard of anyone having an old switch that > was still responding, but just at too high a pressure (if anything I would > expect them to fail in the other direction.) > > I also realize the switch to castrol 5w50 may have been what made the > difference. But I'm reluctant to throw back in some 15w50, have the light > go back off, and then just call the problem solved... I mean, I shouldn't > really be that close to the edge of triggering the switch right? Or should > I be considering it likely that the 5w50 really was just too unstable in a > 1.9l (which has no oil cooler) at high speeds? > > > I'll be grateful for any advice... wow, I hope this engine isn't giving up > on us!! I was planning on getting a lot more life out of it... > >
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