

| Subject: | Re: 82 Coolant Tank retrofit help |
| From: | Old Volks Home |
| Date: | Tue, 22 Nov 2011 22:05:23 -0800 |
My late father (a VW owner himself & former Navy aircraft mechanic) once told me "A patch job is like stopping the clock to save time". This doesn't apply to just Vanagons, but to every VW I have owned since the 60s. True then, just as true today. When a crack appeared on my '84 Westy Expansion Tank, I replaced it and with a dealer supplied tank in '98 when the only place to get it then was a dealer at their high price of the time. Still in great shape today 13 years later. Just my nickel's worth (inflation y'know) --�Jim Thompson84 GL 1.9 "Gloria"84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt"72 411 Station Wagon "Pug"75 914 1.8 "Nancy"Full Timing Since March 1999oldvolkshome@gmail.comhttp://www.oldvolkshome.comFind me on Facebook:http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Thompson/100000710343835***********************************On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote: > To better put this in perspective $150 represents ~two tanks of fuel. By not > buying unique parts there is no incentive for anyone to make them available. > > This is especially true of OEM parts. Yes the dealer charges more. Sometimes > way more. But with few exceptions aftermarket parts are less. I find it > really bothersome to remove 20 year 150,000 mile parts and have the > replacements fail in 2-3 years and 30,000 miles. Whether it be CV joint > boots, exhaust parts or even brake pads, shoes, and hoses. The durability or > performance is often just not there. But if we want the good stuff and the > unique stuff we need to be willing to pay for it. > > Dennis > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of > Ken Wilford > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:13 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: 82 Coolant Tank retrofit help > > OK, I can totally understand repairing these old tanks when you could not > get new ones. �It was a matter of necessity to keep the vans on the road. > However when new tanks are available I believe it is a big mistake to patch > 30 year old expansion tanks and not be asking for disaster. �It is false > economy in my opinion. �If you factor out the value of your time and the > materials to make the repair you save $150 by not buying a new tank. �I > understand money is tight, etc. �However you are risking the life of your > motor which would cost several thousand dollars to repair or replace if this > tank fails. �It is very cheap insurance in comparison. > > I get at least one call a week. �Here is the gist of the call. �My engine is > toasted. �It happened because some old piece of plastic or rubber in the > cooling system failed while I was in heavy traffic or going over a bridge > and I just couldn't stop. �Now how much does it cost to get my van back on > the road? �Over $3k! �If I had only known that I would have replaced my > coolant system parts when I had the chance (tears and sobbing). > > I am frankly tired of hearing this sad tale of woe over and over. �That is > one of the reasons that when VW came here the summer before last one of the > parts on the top of my list for them to reproduce was the 82 Diesel Vanagon > expansion tank. �I know that these are almost all super old and the plastic > can only last so long. �It has lasted 30 years! > That is way longer than it should have. �It is past time to retire it and > install a new one. �If it was a person it would have retired ten years ago > with a pension! �It owes you nothing! > > Please, do the smart thing and replace these parts before they fail. �I am > just trying to help you out. > > -- > Thanks, > Ken Wilford > John 3:16 > www.vanagain.com > Phone: 856-327-4936 > Fax: 856-327-2242 > > On 11/18/2011 9:56 PM, Frank Lee wrote: >> OK so I have the closest part to Yellow Sub's original 82' diesel >> coolant expansion tank. >> I've learned I �must improvise a mounting bracket, �hose connections, >> and a plug. >> >> Or patch the hairline crack in the old tank.. >> >> Can anyone paint me see details on how to do this. >> >> Frank >> >
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