By what basis, knowledge, understanding, whatever do they make that
recommendation? Somehow with 254K on FUN BUS without even pulling the heads
I think the Mobil 1 is proven along with 9 other customers over 200K with
motors still running. Oil analysis has also shown no need to change more
often than 7,500 miles.

Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Felder
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 10:58 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Vanagon engine noise - collapsed lifter?

John and others FYI--

My local VW gurus recommend against synthetics in a Vanagon. Castrol 20W50
is recommended. In my experience, you are asking for a buzzer moment with
anything thinner.

Jim

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 9:04 PM, John Rodgers <inua@charter.net> wrote:

> Collapsed lifter syndrome. Not to worry. Drive it a bit and it will
> pump up. A few that help to keep it from happening - Mann Oil Filter,
> hi-grade synthetic oil like Mobil One in 15W50 wt. Add a dash of
> Marvel's Mystery Oil. These steps will extend the time between periods
> of lifter flatness. But - it will run great, no no probs - until you
> park it wrong and then  it will go flat. Just drive it, and it will
> pump up.  You will need to run it every two or three days to keep them
pumped.
>
> On an aside, good maintenance on your AC if you have it, is to run it
> once a week, winter and summer - to keep the seals lubricated so they
> don't dry out and lose the refrigerant.
>
> John
>
> John Rodgers
> Clayartist and Moldmaker
> 88'GL VW Bus Driver
> Chelsea, AL
> Http://www.moldhaus.com
>
>
>
> On 11/30/2011 12:22 PM, Todd Last wrote:
>
>> My Vanagon has been sitting for awhile and upon starting, is making a
>> noise and puffing out a fair amount of smoke.
>> Is this a collapsed lifter?
>>
>> I made a short video here:
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