Hopefully he just got confused or forgot a ton = 2,000 pounds.

Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Jeff Schwaia
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 8:22 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Vanagon weights was [WetWesties] RV coverage for BCAA, AAA etc

I agree... 4 tons is pretty unbelievable.  Definitely, way above the weight
rating of a Vanagon.

If true, it was a disaster waiting to happen.

Cheers,

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Scott Daniel - Turbovans
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 2:53 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Vanagon weights was [WetWesties] RV coverage for BCAA, AAA etc

hi you guys.

first ....4650 lbs is not a lot for a 2WD vanagon to weigh.
that's very normal.

notice how severe the front weight bias is !
As you add weight in the middle of a 2WD vanagon ..
seems like 2/3rds of it goes on the front axle.

I am skeptical that Roger's loaded 1.9 TD 5 speed westy-type vanagon weighed
nearly 8,000 pounds .

up to 6,500 ..sure ..
lots of very packed and over-equipped syncro's can weigh that much ..
but 8,000 lbs..
I'm skeptical on that.

so you were running tires rated at 2,000 each ?
I know, having seen the fine machine ........it had a common
actually-not-truly vanagon tires on it .
I also notice that one of those not-really-vanagon rated alloy wheels broke
in the roll-over crash.

I just heard two complaints about that very  model of tire recently too.

anyway ..
it's all fun.
Gary does not over-pack I don't think.,
I did have a high end syncro westy here recently ..
they guy loves to max-out on everything.
He had a 40lb tow chain.
he had giant truck tire irons that weighed 25 lbs.
he had a 50 lb high lift jack ..
*everything* he had on and in that van was over-the-top heavy duty.

But when we finished the DOHC 2.5 Subaru engine and rebuilt trans
installation ..
it drove like a new almost modern car.
Has heated leather Mitsubishi Montaro seats, nav system ..
even fuel pressure gauge on the dash .. if it can go on a vanagon ..he had
it.
I'm sure it weighed well over 6,000 lbs ..but it drove great.

what fun !
Scott
www.turbovans.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Bawden" <goldfieldgary@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: Vanagon weights was [WetWesties] RV coverage for BCAA, AAA etc

> Dear four-ton Roger,
>
> I bow to your weightiness, sir!
>
> And didn't it come up a while back that Westies are actually Class B
> Motorhomes? So certainly RV Premium makes sense.
>
> Gary
>
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Roger Whittaker
> <rogerwhitt1@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> dear heavy van
>> and my 1989 5 Speed diesel California Model (RIP)  loaded with the gear
>> my
>> wife brought came in at just under 4 tons
>> so ... there ya go ... get the RV Premium and it pays in the first tow
>> ...
>> regards
>>
>>
>>
>>