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Subject:Re: The Vanille Shake Syndrome
From:Richard Koerner
Date:Fri, 9 Dec 2011 19:16:25 -0800

Embarrassing question:� Where on an 85 1.9L motor with a manual transmission is the Temp Sensor 2?� (got it on my list to clean the contacts and maybe even replace since it's 25 years and 194,000 miles old)� What does it look like?� What color wires, and how many, are leading to it?� If you remove it does coolant flow out?

Rich
San Diego

--- On Fri, 12/9/11, tom ring <taring@TARING.ORG> wrote:

From: tom ring <taring@TARING.ORG>
Subject: Re: The Vanille Shake Syndrome
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Date: Friday, December 9, 2011, 5:56 PM

Absolutely.

Sometimes it's the connector to Temp Sensor 2, sometimes it's the sensor
itself.� My '85 has done both.

Clean the connector really well with contact cleaner, then with something
gentle to medium abrasive, then flush well with contact cleaner to flush out
any abrasive left.� Wait for the cleaner to evaporate.� Help it along if you
want to.� Be careful if it's flammable cleaner.

If that fixes it, great.� If not I'd try a new sensor.� They're not free but
aren't bad pricewise.

And I have an O2 sensor issue, I think.� But I'll leave that open until after
New Year's Day as I won't have time to address it before then.

tom

On 9 Dec 2011 at 16:51, Ken Lewis wrote:

> Peter,
> Tattoo this somewhere prominently:
>
> Always suspect the TEMPII sensor.
>
> Ken
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Antony P Marsh" <apetermarsh@ME.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 12:47 PM
> Subject: [VANAGON] The Vanille Shake Syndrome
>
>
> > Dear Readers
> >
> > Sorry to bother you but up against what appears to be the Vanagon
> > syndrome.� After starting from cold the engine runs OK but when it gets
> > warm it coughs and splutters, seems to be missing and barely gets to 2K
> > rpm.
> >
> > Wondered if you have any ideas or suggestions?� Here is what we have done
> > so far.
> >
> > Replaced the gear shift linkage nylon balls and other parts and the
> > shifting is like new, smooth, precise and is excellent.� The soup spoon
> > gear lever is no more.� Thank you to Dennis Haynes for his diagnosis and
> > Ken Wilford for his fast sending of the necessary "bits".
> >
> > Replaced 02 sensor with new Bosch sensor with three lead attached - made
> > no difference.
> >
> > Replaced the very red rusty fuel tank, all ensuing fuel hoses attached to
> > the tank, new Bosch filter. The fuel pressure is excellent (35 lbs) and
> > the fuel is no longer rust colored - made no difference.
> >
> > We discovered a pig-tail already installed in the engine which looks like
> > it has been there a while.� I have another that I tried - alas no change.
> >
> > Discovered a crack in the distributor body - on removal - the crack turned
> > into several separate pieces.� Thinking this was it - replaced it.� Still
> > the same.
> >
> > All the spark plugs are new Bosch, adjusted correctly.
> >
> > What I can't get over is how well the van ran on my way northern Florida,
> > power was great, 70 mph was no effort and I was checking milage at 20 mpg
> > running the AC.� Then it started with the cough - still sick......
> >
> > Kindest regards
> >
> > Peter Marsh
> > Naples FL
> > 239 595 6171
> >
>