Right! 4 tons = 8,000 lbs !  Way too much weight for any type of VW van. Typo maybe?
Stopping will be a huge problem especially downhill in the snow.

On Dec 9, 2011, at 8:50 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

> Hopefully he just got confused or forgot a ton = 2,000 pounds.
> 
> Dennis
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Jeff Schwaia
> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 8:22 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Vanagon weights was [WetWesties] RV coverage for BCAA, AAA etc
> 
> I agree... 4 tons is pretty unbelievable.  Definitely, way above the weight
> rating of a Vanagon.
> 
> If true, it was a disaster waiting to happen.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Scott Daniel - Turbovans
> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 2:53 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Vanagon weights was [WetWesties] RV coverage for BCAA, AAA etc
> 
> hi you guys.
> 
> first ....4650 lbs is not a lot for a 2WD vanagon to weigh.
> that's very normal.
> 
> notice how severe the front weight bias is !
> As you add weight in the middle of a 2WD vanagon ..
> seems like 2/3rds of it goes on the front axle.
> 
> I am skeptical that Roger's loaded 1.9 TD 5 speed westy-type vanagon weighed
> nearly 8,000 pounds .
> 
> up to 6,500 ..sure ..
> lots of very packed and over-equipped syncro's can weigh that much ..
> but 8,000 lbs..
> I'm skeptical on that.
> 
> so you were running tires rated at 2,000 each ?
> I know, having seen the fine machine ........it had a common
> actually-not-truly vanagon tires on it .
> I also notice that one of those not-really-vanagon rated alloy wheels broke
> in the roll-over crash.
> 
> I just heard two complaints about that very  model of tire recently too.
> 
> anyway ..
> it's all fun.
> Gary does not over-pack I don't think.,
> I did have a high end syncro westy here recently ..
> they guy loves to max-out on everything.
> He had a 40lb tow chain.
> he had giant truck tire irons that weighed 25 lbs.
> he had a 50 lb high lift jack ..
> *everything* he had on and in that van was over-the-top heavy duty.
> 
> But when we finished the DOHC 2.5 Subaru engine and rebuilt trans
> installation ..
> it drove like a new almost modern car.
> Has heated leather Mitsubishi Montaro seats, nav system ..
> even fuel pressure gauge on the dash .. if it can go on a vanagon ..he had
> it.
> I'm sure it weighed well over 6,000 lbs ..but it drove great.
> 
> what fun !
> Scott
> www.turbovans.com
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Bawden" <goldfieldgary@GMAIL.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 11:46 AM
> Subject: Re: Vanagon weights was [WetWesties] RV coverage for BCAA, AAA etc
> 
> 
>> Dear four-ton Roger,
>> 
>> I bow to your weightiness, sir!
>> 
>> And didn't it come up a while back that Westies are actually Class B
>> Motorhomes? So certainly RV Premium makes sense.
>> 
>> Gary
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Roger Whittaker
>> <rogerwhitt1@gmail.com>wrote:
>> 
>>> dear heavy van
>>> and my 1989 5 Speed diesel California Model (RIP)  loaded with the gear
>>> my
>>> wife brought came in at just under 4 tons
>>> so ... there ya go ... get the RV Premium and it pays in the first tow
>>> ...
>>> regards
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>