

| Subject: | Re: selecting a compression tester |
| From: | John Lauterbach |
| Date: | Fri, 23 Dec 2011 08:33:41 -0500 |
Thank you for the advice. The last time I had a compression tester, both vehicles in the driveway had carbuerated slant-six engines. John On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 01:48 -0600, John Rodgers wrote: > Mike that is a pretty good summation of the procedure. I still have my > old aircraft engine compression tester from my aviation days. Works. > Tells me what I want to know, exactly as you have described it. And you > are very correct to advise being very careful of kickover when the > engine is under that much pressure at TDC. It can break an arm, or > worse. Imagine a 6-8-10-12 foot propeller suddenly kicking over during a > compression test using the TDC method. Disaster - is how the newspaper > reported the incident the lady at the airport backed into a turning > propeller. Even a single blade kicking over from TDC can ruin your day - > and so can an auto engine. > > John > > John Rodgers > Clayartist and Moldmaker > 88'GL VW Bus Driver > Chelsea, AL > Http://www.moldhaus.com > > > On 12/22/2011 10:01 PM, Mike wrote: > > Not sure which ones are better than others, but I'm not sure if you > > understand the use of these diagnostic tools. > > A compression tester and a cylinder leak-down tester check different > > things in different ways, so you should use both. > > You could get a compression tester on loan from Autozone or Advanced Auto > > Parts, and test for general overall compression readings. This is > > done by > > turning it over with the starter, with all the sparkplugs removed. > > You want > > to see no more than a 10 percent total difference from the highest > > cylinder > > reading to the lowest one. For example, if the highest cylinder read 130 > > psi, then 10 percent (13 psi) subtracted from that would be the lowest > > acceptable reading from any other cylinder, which equals 117 psi minimum. > > All four cylinders should be in that range from highest to lowest, or > > there's too much imbalance between cylinders compression. This would > > indicate that something needs attention. > > Here's where a leak-down tester is the next step in engine > > diagnosis. You > > turn each cylinder to TDC and hold it there with a socket and breaker > > bar, > > then add 80 psi of compressed air on the first gauge of the leak-down > > regulator. (be careful, that cylinder can turn fast and hard enough to > > break your wrist!) The second gauge will read the pressure that that > > cylinder is leaking-down. If it's a little, it's okay. If it's > > leaking a > > lot, something is wrong. You can hear the air pressure that's leaking > > coming from somewhere in that cylinder. If you hear it at the intake, > > then > > it's leaking from the intake valve; if you hear it at the tailpipe, it's > > leaking from the exhaust valve; if you hear it leaking from the oil > > filler, > > it's leaking past the rings. This test is really only needed if the > > compression test is very low, or extremely uneven across the 4 cylinders. > > If the engine runs well, smooth and powerful, your compression will > > probably > > check high and even. 100 to 160 psi is fine, and is dictated by the > > compression ratio of the engine, so it obviously differs from one > > engine to > > another. > > > > Hope this helps, > > Mike B. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Lauterbach > > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 10:08 PM > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > Subject: selecting a compression tester > > > > One of the few advantages of the recent problems with my '84 Vanagon is > > that my Son, age 13, has taken a sudden interest in the Vanagon and > > wants to get his hands dirty testing it and fixing it. > > > > Several list members have mentioned need for a compression test and a > > leak-down test. Local shops are already on Christmas schedule > > (remember, this is the Deep South), so any testing will be DIY and a > > chance to further my Son's practical education. > > > > Are any of the compression testers at the stores still open any better > > than others? Local AutoZone has a tester for $40 that included the > > screw in adapters for doing the leak-down test (already have air > > compressor). I have the usual array of stores available to me. > > > > Thank you in advance. > > > > John > > > > > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2012.0.1890 / Virus Database: 2109/4697 - Release Date: 12/22/11 > > > >
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